Friday, June 12, 2020

Continuing The Conversation

Self-loathing, white-guilt, fake Christians like feo and Dan Trabue tell us we need to "listen to black voices".  What they mean, of course, even while denying it, is that we should listen to those black voices they find personally compelling...voices that not only move them personally, but validate their own far left notions about race in America.  They say this as if we haven't been listening for decades...since the time of Martin Luther King Jr. we've been listening.  There's been so much listening since that time that a host of policies have been implemented to address the concerns listed by those voices.  And still it's not enough.  It will never be enough for some, for some like to pretend they're furthering King's work, while in reality they share in the responsibility for the conditions about which contemporary "black voices" now refer.

I will be getting into some of King's words another time.  Words the above mentioned fakes have presented to make their white-guilt, pseudo-privileged, pseudo-sanctimonious arguments.  But for now, I am presenting a number of black voices that do not buy into what the fakes and their fake black leaders are selling.  They have better in mind for the black race and have stats and facts to back up their positions...something we never get from those to whom the two fakes insist we must listen.  What follows requires time, because most of what I've chosen is more than a few minutes long.  Close to an hour for a couple, a bit more or less for others.  Yet what you'll hear is a perspective that the fakes dismiss as "outliers", which isn't necessarily untrue.  But these "outliers" aren't speaking from emotion and myth and indoctrination handed down from a time when things should have been far worse but yet from which so many transcended nonetheless, leaving the majority of "voices" from today without excuse...because things are so much better.  Take the time if you really want to prove you care, lefty fakes.  Facts, truth and reality changed a few of those that are highlighted below.  In no particular order, I begin:

Talk about a guy who was down with the narrative! 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0Y35EpOiFc&feature=emb_rel_end

This next person is quite young as of the time of this interview.  He says a few things that make me believe he's still on his journey, but he's clearly very intelligent and may alter those points of concern.  Overall, I dig him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R6kUiKQkxc

The kids really need to listen to this black voice.  He's speaking to them!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9wWF1_YFBA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi2hqL5KkHc

The great Walter Williams also had his journey from leftist to intelligent.  The first two cover some of the same things, but are both worth the time for those who claim it's important to listen to black voices...and actually mean it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtzqsoM7-q4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZGvQcxoAPg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq_serzVQbU

It wouldn't be right to not include something by the great Thomas Sowell, a black voice that, like Williams, even black people need to hear and study.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5csE8q9mho

The following I added because the interviewer could be Dan or the troll.  He's trying hard to get Washington to validate his white-guilt perceptions of the black struggle.  Denzel won't have any of it. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tXLCkDOaD4

Some more from Denzel and others

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjJRfuVPRuY

Larry Elder on Ice Cube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzdzAaFsZks

-----This last one brings up an interesting question, one I've heard expressed a couple of times recently:  for all the black celebrities and politicians,  and all the "white privileged", white-guilt celebrities and politicians, how many of them live within the black communities where all the systemic racism is plaguing the people?  None of them do.  At best, they go in and pass out handouts of one form or another, (with some trying to actually mentor kids now and then...however that looks to them) but they all continue to support the same type of politicians who have done nothing for the last fifty years or more to actually improve things.-----

But I digress.  The voices above differ from those to whom Dan would have us listen by actually having real evidence and data to support their changes of heart.  They are truly "woke" in a way the asshats only pretend to be, and it's brought them hatred from those who find the truth to be inconvenient.  These people would have the voices Dan and feo find compelling to bring forth their evidence for what they believe and insist we believe, too.  It never happens.

And here's something else that won't happen.  Neither of the fakes...Dan and the troll...will watch these videos and bring forth anything that will truly contradict what these brilliant voices say.

15 comments:

Feodor said...

Do you know what being white means, Marshal?

Marshal Art said...

Yes. It means I'm what's known as a "Caucasian", a white skinned person of European descent. It means I have less melanin that other people might have. Aside from that, it means absolutely nothing of any significance except to racists.

Feodor said...

No, it doesn't mean Caucasian. Caucasian is a late 18th century German academy term categorizing the world's population into only 3 groups: Mongoloid and Negroid added to Caucasian. None of those terms are accepted nor acceptable because they are grossly inaccurate.

Europeans do not talk about being white. They don't think of themselves as white.

1 strike.

Try again. And the throw in the answer, if you know, as to when the Irish or the Italians became white in America? They weren't, and then they were. Why?

Marshal Art said...

Yes. It does mean "Caucasian" and Caucasian means "white". That's how the term has always been used and is still used as such as a descriptor.

"Europeans do not talk about being white. They don't think of themselves as white."

There's around 743,595,000 Europeans. With how many of them have you discussed how they view themselves? Strike THAT, troll.

"Try again. And the throw in the answer, if you know, as to when the Irish or the Italians became white in America? They weren't, and then they were. Why?"

I couldn't care less. What's that got to do with all the intelligent black people presented in the videos above that you didn't freakin' watch, you cowardly fake?

Your next comment better be on topic or it won't be posted.



Marshal Art said...

The troll has been trying to post, but he fails to abide simple rules. However, I am going to post a few snippets in order to make clear to him what he should already know:

"If you do not know what being white means, Marshal, then you cannot begin a discussion of race."

Sez you. You haven't the knowledge or authority...morally or otherwise...to dictate whether or not I can discuss anything.

Being white means nothing in particular except to racist clowns like feo. He tries hard to make a case that the founders wanted a white society, by quoting "geniuses" whose opinions mirror his own. For example:

""Congress envisioned a white, Protestant and culturally homogeneous America when it declared in 1790 that only “free white persons, who have, or shall migrate into the United States” were eligible to become naturalized citizens."

But as this article plainly demonstrates, it likely had different connotations than what the language of the time might indicate to racists like feo. "...when the Constitution was ratified, black Americans were citizens in several states and could even vote." I would suspect that it is more likely that in 1790, the various states were still dealing with the same divisive arguments about slavery, and that accounts for the "free 'white' persons" wording of the Naturalization Act. Those opposed to non-whites, who would become the Democrat Party of today, have always been the racists among us. But that doesn't guarantee that all at the time were keen on a "whites only" America, regardless of how badly feo wants to believe it.

"Which Europeans are considered white? It’s a construct as many times people who are considered white in a certain region are given a different term somewhere else. At the moment, US government officially classifies anyone with ancestry in Europe, parts of Central Asia and North Africa along with a few middle eastern countries as white or Caucasian. "

This contradicts what feo says in the comment from June 12, 2020 at 3:18 PM with regard to the use of the term "Caucasian", but affirms the very thing I've always said with regard to their being only one race...the human race. So it's nice that for all the several attempted posts feo thinks makes his point, he once again affirms mine rather nicely.

In any case, feo again chooses to go off-topic, pretends I'm not willing to seriously discuss race but continues to do nothing at his own blog to provide a forum for just such a discussion. No. He'd rather impose irrelevant, off-topic comments meant to serve his unjustly overinflated ego than to truly engage in any attempt to promote understanding and truth. Not happening here.

Marshal Art said...

Only a moron would question the courage of another while refusing to open up his own blog for discussion. I'm quite ready to engage anyone. It's not "fragility" to refuse a moron's attempt to dictate. That's what the moron's own blog is for.

Craig said...

John Perkins eloquently makes the one race argument in his last book, One Blood.

Feodor said...

RE Stan's response to your depravity:

"That our society routinely tries and condemns the suspect before the courts ever get to it is outrageous, a complete violation of American jurisprudence, and a negation of the bottom-line, "Innocent until proven guilty" premise."

Mr Floyd lost his life because of a slight suspicion that he passed a fake $20 bill which you and I may have done too.
Mr Arbery lost his life because he was jogging through a white Georgia neighborhood.
Ms Taylor lost her life because they rushed in unannounced and started shooting into a place where the suspect never was.
Mr Brooks was sleeping drunk in a fast food drive thru. They asked him to pull over to a side. He did. They talked with him for 20 minutes before trying without telling him that they were going to arrest him.
Mr Garner was selling loose cigarettes. Loose cigarettes.

But you find these words for the cop's case, a cruel, callous policeman who knelt - not like Kaepernick in the American tradition of protest to call attention to human rights - but knelt for nine minutes on a guys neck to kill him... you write these words about an accused who got bail:

"That our society routinely tries and condemns the suspect..."

Mr Floyd, Mr Arbery, Ms Taylor, Mr Brooks, Mr Garner, did they get bail? Did they get a hearing before a judge?

"That applies to us, not to those we don't like."

Amazing that you can write that in an attempt to call others hypocrites. We others are protesting state executions on the street, modern day actual lynchings.

But you, you find the courage to protest the treatment of Officer Chauvin.

I see you. I see your depravity. I see how you respect white life.

Marshal Art said...

I had to allow feo's last comment above because it's so hilariously stupid and about something so serious, the stupid has no place. Let's get right to it:

"Mr Floyd lost his life because of a slight suspicion that he passed a fake $20 bill which you and I may have done too.
Mr Arbery lost his life because he was jogging through a white Georgia neighborhood.
Ms Taylor lost her life because they rushed in unannounced and started shooting into a place where the suspect never was.
Mr Brooks was sleeping drunk in a fast food drive thru. They asked him to pull over to a side. He did. They talked with him for 20 minutes before trying without telling him that they were going to arrest him.
Mr Garner was selling loose cigarettes. Loose cigarettes."


Five lies. But then, we're dealing with feo, the false priest, so lies are par for the course. Taking them one by one:

1. Floyd lost his life because he was high and resisting. Compliance with police orders, even police who are jerks, lessens anyone chance of dying during the confrontation. For the record, Floyd was suspected of passing fake money, but didn't die because of that.

2. Arbery lost his life because he decided to assault the younger McMichael and attempted to wrest the shotgun from his hands. For anyone who has a weapon, it is more than a little reasonable to suspect that someone who is trying to take it without permission is a lethal threat. I'd be willing to wager that most state laws would agree. For the record, he was suspected of being the person recorded multiple times in a home that wasn't his, and on the day in question was seen entering that house. That's burglary at worst and trespassing at best.

3. Taylor lost her life because her boyfriend opened fire on police serving a warrant. There's debate over whether or not they announced themselves prior to entry. The no-knock warrant is issued when there's a fear evidence will be destroyed while awaiting permission to enter. Taylor's home was suspected of having drugs stored there, and her relationship with the dealer in question drew police attention.

4. Brooks was shot because he assaulted two cops in an attempt to flee once it was determined that he was DWI. He was tested and there was no question he was under arrest, except for the possibility that he was stoned enough to not understand English. Audio recordings of the episode clearly indicate he was less than totally alert. He was guilty of at least three or four felonies in the course of the confrontation.

5. Garner died because he resisted arrest for repeating a crime for which is was already warned against perpetrating. Also, he died because he was in extremely bad physical shape.

These are the realities in the deaths of these five people, and lying racists like feo are wont to pervert the details in order to perpetuate their false narrative about "systemic racism" and police brutality. It would be wise to restrict their ranting to cases where either or both have actually been proven to have happened. In the above five examples, we have one case where police misconduct seems to have occurred. That would be the Floyd case, though it would be extremely helpful if we had complete, start-to-finish video to review.

Marshal Art said...

"But you find these words for the cop's case...


"That our society routinely tries and condemns the suspect...""


These words are true and descriptive of what happens far too often, particularly from race-hustlers any time the dead is a black person...unless of course the person who took that life is also black. Then race-hustling assholes say nothing. As I've been saying over and over again, it doesn't matter how bad things look when we see a brief video. What matters is ALL the facts, including those which are not made public for one reason or another. Just look at feo's five examples and how he relates them. Clearly he's not concerned with facts...with truth...with acting honorably about something so incredibly serious. No. He's looking to push the narrative because this weasel thinks he's down with the cause and a champion of the black man. God help me if I ever am cursed with a champion like feo the false priest!! Might as well take my own life!

"Mr Floyd, Mr Arbery, Ms Taylor, Mr Brooks, Mr Garner, did they get bail? Did they get a hearing before a judge?"

They all would have had they not chosen to be combative (in the case of Taylor, she died because her boyfriend was combative). Had they submitted to the arresting officers like they're obligated to do, they'd all still be alive today. Chauvin, in the meantime, didn't resist arrest and apparently, he was not a flight risk, so he got bail. See how that works?

"We others are protesting state executions on the street, modern day actual lynchings."

You're not by bringing up any of these cases!! But the reality is that you're asserting cases such as these are cases of executions with the force of law. That's evil hyperbole, also known as lying...like what Kaepernick did by kneeling at the wrong time given his complaint (false as it is).

When people resist arrest, and cops are forced by that resistance to employ forceful measures, it is not the cop who is at fault when the suspect dies, unless it can be proven that the cop acted willfully or with reckless neglect. Yet, even were it to be so proven, it was the resistance...the combative response...that was the catalyst for all that happened leading to the death.

"But you, you find the courage to protest the treatment of Officer Chauvin."

Protesting asshats who try and convict anyone on the basis of a brief video, out of context of the entire event that culminated in the death of a suspect, is not defending the cop. It's calling out asshats who think they know everything when very little is known.

"I see you. I see your depravity. I see how you respect white life."

You see what you want to see because you're a lying, racist asshole who hasn't the honor and integrity to have a true conversation on race. You can't because the risk of exposure is to guaranteed. But you exposed yourself long ago. The depravity and lack of respect for human life is all yours, false priest. You can't argue against that reality after all these years.

Marshal Art said...

feo,

Because you've been confirmed as a liar, you are required to provide complete proof of your truth claims. If you like, you can spew your distortions at your own blog where you have proven your cowardice by prohibiting discourse.

Marshal Art said...

And still feo lacks the courage to open his blog for true open discussion and debate. He tries to post here what he can't post elsewhere because he's proven himself too much of an asshole and thus too risky to chance allowing his comments. And all the while, he continues to ignore the brilliant black voices presented in this post, as well as continuing to ignore the data that makes his arguments the lies they are. A true coward, racist and promoter of immorality...but not at all a Christian.

Marshal Art said...

So the two champions of the downtrodden "poor little black people"...Dan Trabue the fake Christian rape enabler and feo the false priest race-hustler abortionist...have yet to watch any of the videos I posted containing brilliant black voices. They only want people to listen to the Marxist, left-wing propagandists of the black population..race-baiting con-men...and the blind believers of that crap who follow them, who've bought into it all without evidence. Yeah, that might be a bit harsh. Some of them, maybe even most of them, sincerely believe what they believe. And still, for our purposes here, these two clowns offer NOTHING in the way of evidence for their positions. Well...Dan offers polls. He offers opinions and because, according to him and his other polls, it means what people think is the same as fact, reality, truth. Except it's not. It's neither fact, reality or truth, nor is it evidence of it.

So they dance around the relevant data that dispels their notions on some things, and strongly suggests, if not proves, notions that they don't want to face, because that truth doesn't sell well to too many of those with whom they think they're allied.

feo tries to force the off-topic and Dan tries to demand attention to the irrelevant (and I very much intend to address his irrelevant distractions for what truly matters) but neither care about truth. Nonetheless, I intend to promote the truth, having listened for years to the falsehoods they pretend are truths. So here's some truth in this roughly half-hour video (not that they have the integrity to listen) and it contains truth and toward the end more black voices (some of those are among what I've already posted, but they're good to hear again and these morons need to listen).

https://www.blazetv.com/watch/channel/series/series/bZ55M0eK8zTh-levintv-latest-episodes/episode/43-lmtxilcl3cue-mob-mentality-ep-727?t=0

But they won't listen because being liars they love lies more. It's how they roll. They've been given over.

Craig said...

Dan,

You've finally found a topic about which data is seemingly irrelevant.

Marshal Art said...

Not sure what you mean, Craig. Most of Dan's topic choices run counter to the data!