Thursday, April 14, 2022

The Sick Progressive

 It has been said that liberalism is a mental disorder.  It's hard to dispute that assertion.  The things they say and believe are so often...so routinely...counter to rational, logical thought; so distant from morality.  Indeed, those things are anathema to the common progressive.  They promote and defend evils and then accuse those who oppose them as the evil people.  What follows are a few examples from today's assortment of AmericanThinker articles:

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/04/abortion_is_lifesaving_lifeaffirming_healthcare.html

This article presents an attitude which is not uncommon among the common progressive...that one's aspirations are more important than the life of the person the progressive invited into existence.  It's no secret the typical leftist has shown their contempt and disregard for the newly conceived by referring to such people as mere "clumps of cells".   And they do this while daring to speak of racism and "white privilege".  The reality is these people clearly believe there's no need to deny one's self sexual self-gratification simply because the chance very much exists of becoming impregnated by engaging in the act meant to bring about new human life.  They are so warped as to believe their deceptive position on when life begins holds any water, even for themselves.  Remember, they're disordered...not stupid.  They know damned well they're killing people when they have or encourage abortions.  These liars who demand we follow the science simply ignore science when it's convenient for them to do so.  They're contemptible.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/04/the_disturbing_trends_in_progressive_support_for_abortion.html

This article takes that from above and worsens it beyond description, by presenting the worst of them.  Imagine celebrating the murder of black people the way the black woman in this article celebrates the murder of innocent human beings in the womb!!  But the disorder of the leftist pretends there's some difference of significance in order to preserve the "right" to sexual self-gratification.  Indeed, to suggest to such people they deny themselves results in the wildest look.  "What???  Not get laid???  What's wrong with you???"

 https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/04/sacrificing_childhood_innocence_for_the_sake_of_delusional_adults.html

Notice the trend here.  Progressive adults, disordered as all get out, having an extremely damaging impact on the most vulnerable people...small children!   If they can't kill them in the womb, they'll indoctrinate and influence them as soon as they can get their evil hands on them.  In this case, they do so behind the backs of the children's parents, purposely, intentionally, as if they know best what's good for the children.  And to them, what's best is trying to recruit...through their grooming efforts...as many to the deviant LGBT cause as possible.   Progressives support this disordered thinking, because progressives are disordered people themselves.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/04/a_retired_new_york_times_columnist_offers_an_incredibly_classist_take_on_alcoholism.html

This article highlights the progressive attitude toward "others", as in, mostly the common man...the very people the progressives like to pretend are their greatest concern.  I especially enjoyed the author's use of the term "'White' progressive elites"...the truly privileged as it happens.  But they're truly privileged in their attitudes regarding themselves, while supposing themselves compassionate. 

Now here's where I throw a bone.  I regard all left-leaning people as varying degrees of the same evil.   I've known and continue to know many people of the left.  Some are even family members.  The people I know I would regard as mostly decent people who simply buy into the crap which defines the  progressive.  They vote for this shit.  Thus, despite their "best intentions" and their otherwise compassionate natures, they are no less guilty of promoting and enabling the disorder of progressive-ism.  It saddens me to no end.

The above is just a taste of the disordered positions and attitudes of the progressive.  There are other topics in which the disorder manifests.  These articles were simply those which all happened to appear in a single day's posting at AmericanThinker.com. 

24 comments:

Eternity Matters said...

"I regard all left-leaning people as varying degrees of the same evil."

It is common to say they have mental disorders, but it is really pure rebellion against God and his created order. Be fruitful and multiply? No, we'll pay to crush and dismember our own children in ways that would make Molech proud. Only use the anus as an exit-only body part? No, we'll use it for sex in all sorts of demented ways, regardless of the filth, disease, and medical problems it causes. God made them male and female? Yeah, we hate Jesus, so we'll pretend that there are more genders and that you can change them at will. Don't harm children? Nuts to that, we'll convince them to mutilate their bodies so that no one would ever consider marrying them, so they'll never have an orgasm, so they'll hate themselves, etc. Don't steal? No, we'll steal 24x7 by voting for politicians who will fulfill our covetous desires and take other people's money at the point of a gun for our use. Parental rights? Nope, we'll train the kids to distrust and hate their parents. Love your neighbors? No, we'll teach them to be racists if they are black and to hate themselves if they are white.

And so on. Yep, pure God-mocking evil.

Marshal Art said...

And too many embrace that evil. I'm saddened by those who don't but at the same time enable and perpetuate it by their votes. The evil is presented in ways which can have appeal for some and they think they're on solid ground when casting those votes.

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

Welcome to the world of my mom. She is so far LEFT she makes Biden look like a conservative!

Marshal Art said...

That's the sad part, Glenn. When close family and friends are left-leaning, they may be sincere. Yet, they're complicit in all the harm which comes from it nonetheless.

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

Yep, and my wife and I have given her the full gospel too many times to count. We still love her, of course, but getting truth to her is next to impossible.

Marshal Art said...

Just as sadly...and it's absolutely true of the worst of them...they see only the most superficial connection between Scripture and their leftist ideals. (The worst of them know there's no such connection, but pretend otherwise.)

Dan Trabue said...

Marshal... "It has been said that liberalism is a mental disorder."

Neil... "It is common to say they have mental disorders, but it is really pure rebellion against God..."

? By who? Crazy conspiracy theorist-believing Q-anon types and other far right extremists?

Of course, the reality is that no actual experts say that being liberal is a mental disorder. This is just the sort of COMPLETELY devoid of reality stupidly false claims that some on the Trump-side of "conservatism" routinely make. It doesn't matter that it's a stupidly, insanely false claim with NO support for it. It's enough to make a stupid claim and hope that useful idiots will buy into the stupidly false claim completely detached from reality.

So tell me: WHO has the mental disorder in that scenario?

And rebellion against God? Standing up for the poor, the marginalized, the immigrants, the sick and disabled, the orphans, the oppressed... THIS is rebellion against God??

Do you all not see how literally crazy such claims are?

Come on. Forget about returning to Christianity... just try to return to the realm of the semi-rational. This is crazy-land you boys are living in. You all can't be THAT detached from reality!

It's funny, you all try to slam people like my fellow church members - progressive people who've committed their lives to serving the least of these, committed to family and to God and to church, working daily pouring out their lives in one way or another to the very marginalized and poor that Jesus came to preach the good news to... THESE people are in rebellion to god, but people like Trump are model citizens and great leaders...

Boys, disagreeing with you all is NOT the same as disagreeing with God. People of good will DO disagree with you in following God and if you can't have the grace to at least allow that much... there's something of the Pharisee in you all.

Come on. Lighten up, Frances.

Dan Trabue said...

Marshal... "The things they say and believe are so often...so routinely...counter to rational, logical thought; so distant from morality. Indeed, those things are anathema to the common progressive."

I appeal to you as a rational adult, think this through:

1. Even if you don't agree, can't you SEE how rational adults (the majority of our nation, indeed) see that gay people simply being gay is not harming anyone else, is just people being themselves and that we support such folk getting married because it's a rational thing to do... to have committed life-long, stable marriage relationships is rationally a responsible, moral thing to do?

Again, even if you disagree, can't you see how it is rational for us? And moral?

2. Same thing for morality: You no doubt AGREE that it is immoral to oppress people, even LGBTQ people. You don't want to see them beaten, mocked, abused, killed or otherwise oppressed, right? You would see all of that as a great immorality, just like we do, right?

If so, then can't you see that - even if you disagree - that we're acting out of a concern for basic morality and justice... as opposed to holding our views because we want to be immoral or reject God? You can understand that and see that, can't you?

Marshal Art said...

"By who? Crazy conspiracy theorist-believing Q-anon types and other far right extremists?"

I guess they must be in order to say anything negative about your kind, right? That's how it always goes with you.

"Of course, the reality is that no actual experts say that being liberal is a mental disorder."

Perhaps not in so many words...though close enough:

https://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Mind-Psychological-Political-Madness/dp/0977956318/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1327282904&sr=1-3

https://spectatorworld.com/life/liberalism-really-mental-illness/

https://thenewamerican.com/liberal-states-are-the-most-psychopathic-study-shows/

https://www.eutimes.net/2020/02/liberalism-is-a-mental-disorder-akin-to-schizophrenia-according-to-new-study/

"This is just the sort of COMPLETELY devoid of reality stupidly false claims that some on the Trump-side of "conservatism" routinely make. It doesn't matter that it's a stupidly, insanely false claim with NO support for it. It's enough to make a stupid claim and hope that useful idiots will buy into the stupidly false claim completely detached from reality.

So tell me: WHO has the mental disorder in that scenario?"


That would be you...constantly saying "stupidly false claims" multiple times in a short comment doesn't suggest a mentally balanced individual. Routine references to some imagined "Trump conservatism"...as if you have the least understanding of conservatism...is rather psychotic as well. And as to those like you having no understanding of conservatism, it's been studied as well and has long been know to any conservative as a matter of course:

https://hotair.com/tina-korbe/2012/04/13/confirmed-conservatives-understand-liberal-positions-better-than-liberals-understand-conservative-positions-n185145

"And rebellion against God? Standing up for the poor, the marginalized, the immigrants, the sick and disabled, the orphans, the oppressed... THIS is rebellion against God??"

This deceptive ploy, most common to you, is incredibly desperate. First, you think saying things like this is the be all and end all of the typical "progressive", and specifically yourself. Conservatives can more easily, more truthfully make the same claim and more importantly, easily argue for more success in all those areas. (A debate for another time, so don't attempt to try to derail the conversation to a tangent more pleasing to you. I won't allow it.)

Secondly, it has no relevance to those things you support which are indeed contrary to God's will...abortion and the LGBT agenda being the most obvious. Thus, the claims are accurate and fact based.

"Come on. Forget about returning to Christianity... just try to return to the realm of the semi-rational."

That's funny.

"...you all try to slam people like my fellow church members..."

Only collaterally. We actually focus our attention on you. However, if you're typical of your congregation, then sure, they're worthy of "slamming" as well. But again, we see you deflecting and attempting to pretend talking about what wonderful people your fellow congregants are, then by golly, we must be mad to suggest lefties are nuts. Sorry, Nancy. It doesn't work that way. You expect us to ignore Hitler's wrong doing because he like puppies. That's mental.

Marshal Art said...



"THESE people are in rebellion to god, but people like Trump are model citizens and great leaders..."

Two things wrong here:

First, if your fellow congregants believe as you do about abortion and the LGBT agenda (among other lefty things you've espoused), they're in rebellion as much as you clearly are.

Second, no one here has ever referred to Trump or anyone like him as model citizens. He has, however, proven himself to be a far superior leader than your Obama and Biden. That's just a fact you lack the honesty and honor to admit...and that's likely because you're afraid some lefty might think you like him and all the immoral things he's done...which is mental.

"Boys, disagreeing with you all is NOT the same as disagreeing with God."

It is if what we say is proven true by an honest reading and even elementary understanding of Scripture...which it has been thus far. It's not enough to say you disagree with us. Some day you'll have to bring the "hard data" you demand of us. Until then, the above quote of yours is just a...how did you describe it?...oh, yeah...a "stupidly false claim","COMPLETELY devoid of reality" "with NO support for it."

"People of good will DO disagree with you in following God and if you can't have the grace to at least allow that much..."

No doubt. You're just not one of them.

"Come on. Lighten up, Frances."

That's "Francis", Sally. Gender ambiguity is your thing.

Dan Trabue said...

Marshal... "they're in rebellion as much as you clearly are."

Fact check tone rebellion indicates willful rejection. Intentionality. Liberals like myself are willfully, deliberately trying to FOLLOW God, not rebel. You can accuse us of being mistaken (in your opinion) but not of willful rebellion.

Words have meanings.

Dan Trabue said...

Marshal, I've looked into three of your links (all conservative sources saying what THEY THINK some researchers are saying). Suffice to say, they don't understand the research any better than you do.

A few points:

1. If liberals seek mental health services more than conservatives, that's not a sign (necessarily) that liberals have more mental health problems. Indeed, the more likely explanation is that conservatives are more prone (as in the case of you fellas) to not trust or agree with the notion of mental health care. Hell, Glenn doesn't even acknowledge it as a science or acknowledge the notion of "mental health!"

2. At least one of your sources noted that more urban locations are more likely to seek mental health support. They conflate this to mean that "liberal cities" are where mental health problems exist, but that, too, is faulty reasoning. Mental health services are more likely to be found and found in greater diversity in urban settings, (see point 3.) so that's not a proof that liberals are more likely to have mental health concerns than conservatives. It could well be the case that conservatives just don't seek it, it's not part of their culture. They teach their children and themselves not to trust mental health supports and thus, opt out of it.

3. At least one of your sources noted that liberals don't believe in right and wrong, but that's just not factual.

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/belief-in-god/do-not-believe-in-god/political-ideology/liberal/

4. The spectrum of people who are more liberal tends to skew younger. Younger people are less likely to have a stigmatized notion of mental health care and thus, be more likely to seek help. The same is true in inverse as regards to conservatives being older and more religious, both traits that make them less likely to seek mental health care.

5. Another point: many people have mental health concerns and seek mental health support. There's nothing wrong or suggestive of a problem in seeking mental health support. Indeed, it's the wisest thing to do if you have mental health concerns. Thus, I trust a person who needs mental health support who seeks it than someone who denies they need mental health support. That, indeed, would be a problematic condition to be in.

6. One last point: Given that conservatives tend not to trust mental health experts and stigmatize such AND that progressive minded people do tend to trust mental health experts and even be mental health experts, and people with significant mental illnesses (who most of the time are perfectly able to think rationally in most ways) see that conservatives stigmatize mental health concerns (and thus, THEM as mental health consumers), it would make sense that they would tend to align more with the people who support them.

All of that to say, your sources are not fully understanding the links they're referencing and may well be missing the point.

Dan Trabue said...

Marshal... "First, if your fellow congregants believe as you do about abortion and the LGBT agenda (among other lefty things you've espoused), they're in rebellion as much as you clearly are."

1. They are, by and large. While more conservative people are welcome at our church and some have come, they by and large self-select out and thus, we are a thoroughly progressive church on point after point.

2. I suspect what you'd say to my previous point (that the most you could say is that we are mistaken, but not that we're deliberately in rebellion against God... that indeed, we do what we do and believe what we believe PRECISELY because we're seeking to walk in Jesus' Way), that it's possible to be sincerely mistaken AND in rebellion... and just not know it.

Is that correct?

3A. If so, what does that say about your notion of grace as it relates to your mistaken assumptions? That is, I assume you would not be so arrogant as to say that you CAN NOT be mistake on any points of theology or morality. Right?

3B. If so, then you would agree that there are SOME points where you may well be mistaken about some sins or theological points, right?

3C. Would you describe yourself as being "in rebellion" on those points that you're sincerely mistaken on?

If, for instance, you find out one day that your position on LGBTQ matters was diametrically opposed to God's (as I'm certain you will), will you say that you were in active rebellion against God on that point? Or that you were just sincerely mistaken, which is not the same as being in rebellion purposefully?

3D. What is the outcome of those who are sincerely mistaken on some points of morality... does God's grace cover that mistake?

3E. What about those who are sincerely mistaken on some points of theology... covered by grace?

3F. What is your source for which ideas one can and can't be mistake on? If and when you find out that Genesis really was written in a mythic style and you were mistaken to insist on some kind of literal interpretation of the creation story (and some of the extensions of that), can you still be saved? What about being mistaken on "inerrancy..."? Will you lose your salvation/were you never saved? Penal Substitutionary Atonement - if you're mistaken, are you doomed? Virgin Birth? Trinity? Sola Scriptura??

And again, what is your authoritative source for which items/morals/theological points you can and can't be mistaken on?

Marshal Art said...

"I appeal to you as a rational adult, think this through:"

This presumes, unjustly, that I, as a rational adult who actually knows what "rational" means, has not thought any of this through. I could not hold my rational position if I hadn't.

"1. Even if you don't agree, can't you SEE how rational adults (the majority of our nation, indeed) see that gay people simply being gay is not harming anyone else..."

First of all, you have absolutely no legitimate data to presume the majority of our nation are "rational" in the manner you so desperately need them to be in order to play the logic fallacy card of an appeal to numbers.

Secondly, actual rational people don't argue that "simply being 'gay'" is harmful to anyone but the "gay" guy. Rational people believe the same about pedophiles. That is, so long as they just have the desire and go no further, they aren't "harmful" to anyone. So what? The same can be said about any "orientation", including those of a violent nature, that merely "being" isn't harmful to anyone else. Again, so what? A dumb argument.

"that we support such folk getting married because it's a rational thing to do... to have committed life-long, stable marriage relationships is rationally a responsible, moral thing to do?"

Only those who enable immorality and dysfunction would suggest such a thing. Those who are truly Christian and not in rebellion against God know the "rational" move is to guide these disordered people away from their disordered and immoral lifestyles and instead toward God and toward developing life-long, stable and ACTUAL marriages, if uniting for life with someone is something they desire. That you support such folk getting "married" to each other is evidence (if not absolute proof) of your rebellion against God.

"Again, even if you disagree, can't you see how it is rational for us? And moral?"

That's funny. There's nothing "rational" about enabling immoral behavior, which exposes you as being clearly unfamiliar with what "rational" means. But I can see how irrational and immoral behavior would be seen as rational and moral to irrational and immoral people like you. So you got me on that one!

"2. Same thing for morality: You no doubt AGREE that it is immoral to oppress people, even LGBTQ people. You don't want to see them beaten, mocked, abused, killed or otherwise oppressed, right? You would see all of that as a great immorality, just like we do, right?

If so, then can't you see that - even if you disagree - that we're acting out of a concern for basic morality and justice... as opposed to holding our views because we want to be immoral or reject God? You can understand that and see that, can't you?"


Oh my gosh! Does it physically hurt to come up with such tortured thinking? No one here supports illegal actions, such as beating or killing anyone, even disordered people such as those among the LGBT "folk". It's a nonsensical thing to even bring up as a way to further your immoral enabling of disordered and immoral behavior...which is a disordered and immoral thing for you to continue doing. It's never something even in question. And none of it has anything to do with supporting, defending and enabling their agenda. So don't ever do that again and expect anything better than abject contempt for the dishonesty required to try again.

The reality is you do regard their behaviors and demands as moral in and of themselves apart from any desire to not have their asses kicked. So cut the crap. You have to mentally defective to suppose honest people would stand for it.

Marshal Art said...

April 16, 2022 at 3:58 PM

(I have to do this since Dan is piling on with comments unrelated to the post. Does he ever stick to the topic at blogs not his own?)

"Liberals like myself are willfully, deliberately trying to FOLLOW God, not rebel. You can accuse us of being mistaken (in your opinion) but not of willful rebellion."

Well, you say you're trying to follow God, but clearly you only go as far as is convenient. You've been corrected on your heresies and false beliefs, and that correction came with solid citations from Scripture...the only source truly necessary for honest people discussing how to follow God...which you dismiss as "opinion", "hunch", "speaking for God" and other sundry BS responses which are never accompanied by actual evidence of your own which either supports your heresy or debunks our proper recitations of what Scripture clearly says. Just "Nyuh uh" from you. As such as you so reject the Truth, you are in rebellion.

"Words have meanings."

Yeah. We know. But you disordered lefties like to alter meanings to that which is more pleasing and convenient.

Marshal Art said...

April 16, 2022 at 6:29 PM

"Marshal, I've looked into three of your links (all conservative sources saying what THEY THINK some researchers are saying). Suffice to say, they don't understand the research any better than you do."

And there it is: Dan's typical rejection based on partisanship. The sources I use are simply reporting what the researchers are saying. If they're not, you'd better have better than you usually bring, which is bupkis.

"1. If liberals seek mental health services more than conservatives, that's not a sign (necessarily) that liberals have more mental health problems."

Uh...yes it is. If they're not mental, why are they seeking mental health services at all?

"Indeed, the more likely explanation is that conservatives are more prone (as in the case of you fellas) to not trust or agree with the notion of mental health care."

And now you're obliged to provide evidence that this is why conservatives with mental health issues might not seek care, while also providing evidence they increase the total beyond that of wack job lefties. I'll wait here while you don't.

"2. At least one of your sources...etc."

Urban areas are mostly leftist. That there are more facilities dealing with mental health issues is directly related to the need. No one opens a facility for which there isn't any. From there you simply throw crap on the wall to see what sticks, not having any clue about how conservatives think and how it compels their actions. Conservatives raise their children properly and as a result, far fewer demands for mental health services result.

"3. At least one of your sources noted that liberals don't believe in right and wrong, but that's just not factual."

Of course it is. Lefties pretend there's nothing inherently immoral about homosexual behavior. You just pretend it's about how it's done. But "right" is clear that the act itself is wrong regardless of who is doing it or in what context it might take place. That's just one clear example of what constitutes "right and wrong" for the lefty. Honest people don't alter time tested notions of right and wrong to appease personal desire. That's a lefty thing. Thus, calling a bad behavior "moral" doesn't make it so, and thus, you people don't believe in right and wrong, but only that which aligns with your desires. To the leftist, morality is relative. That's not the same as believing in right and wrong.

Marshal Art said...


4. Older people, particularly older conservative people, don't need mental health care because they always understood morality and sought to live accordingly. The young lefties, much like their older allies, are less likely to want to adhere to traditional notions of right and wrong and that leads to mental/emotional distress.

5. This might be true if the issue was comparing how those of opposite political persuasions with mental issues deal with them. The point of my response to your proven false claim no experts agree with the notion lefties are more mental is that studies to which I've linked show lefties are indeed disordered. Ignoring the point in order to pretend you lefties are normal is mental.

6. This is just another desperate hope on your part meant to deflect the reality I've supported with my links. It requires ignoring the point and seeking to focus on your imagined reasons why some conservatives with mental issues don't seek help. Fine. Even if we concede a percentage of such people are as you say, it's not at all a response to the data which shows lefties are more mentally unstable. But that's a hunch that such people even exist or exist in great numbers. You need to believe there's no difference based on political belief, but the studies indicate otherwise.

"All of that to say, your sources are not fully understanding the links they're referencing and may well be missing the point."

You could actually do a happy dance if you could prove any of this. Until then, it's just another desperate and dishonest hope on your part...which is rather mental.

Marshal Art said...

April 16, 2022 at 6:39 PM

"1. They are, by and large. While more conservative people are welcome at our church and some have come, they by and large self-select out and thus, we are a thoroughly progressive church on point after point."

I would wager they bolt when they realize how heretical and anti-Christian you fakes are.

"2. I suspect...etc.

Is that correct?"


No. You DO know it, you just don't like the truth which has been, not only clearly revealed to you in Scripture, but reiterated by solid Christians time and time again. In your case, by the dozen or so actual Christians who've done so on these here blogs, many of which no longer waste their time with you due to you being such a reprobate given over to your sinfulness.

3A. It's not "arrogant" to say it if heretics like you can't prove it. It's not arrogant if my beliefs are clearly drawn from Scripture to which I can point as proof for my positions. For you to pretend I'm mistaken, while never presenting chapter and verse which proves the charge is not an indictment of me in the least.

3B. I would never insist I can't be mistaken on some point of Scripture. You've just proven yourself incapable of showing where that's the case.

3C. If I was correct about a mistaken belief as you have, and still I clung to that belief now proven false, as so many of yours have been, I would, like you, be in rebellion against God.

"If, for instance, you find out one day that your position on LGBTQ matters was diametrically opposed to God's..."

But it's not, and you've not come within a universe of proving otherwise. My position is based on God's clearly revealed will on the subject. Yours is pulled from your ass.

"3D. What is the outcome of those who are sincerely mistaken on some points of morality... does God's grace cover that mistake? "

Irrelevant question. You're not "mistaken" at all at this point. You're willfully rejecting the Truth.

"3E. What about those who are sincerely mistaken on some points of theology... covered by grace?"

Irrelevant. What "some" might face has nothing to do with the fact that you're in rebellion because you reject truth and this is clearly disordered.

3F. Hypothetical questions are irrelevant and don't absolve you of your willful rebellion and disordered thinking. If you want to admit you're a mental case, you'd have a far better chance of having your heresies overlooked. Are you going to plead insanity?

"And again, what is your authoritative source for which items/morals/theological points you can and can't be mistaken on?"

Asked and answered hundreds of times over the years. You reject the authoritative source which informs honest people of the truth in favor of worldly alternatives.

Marshal Art said...

OK. I've indulged quite enough our tangential dodging. If you've nothing to say on the post, no legit counter evidence to bring, you've got nothing, including no business wasting time here.

Dan Trabue said...

Marshal... " You DO know it, you just don't like the truth which has been, not only clearly revealed to you in Scripture but reiterated by solid Christians time and time again. In your case, by the dozen or so actual Christians who've done so on these here blogs"

I GET that you REAALLY really, really, really, truly, REAALLLLLLLLLY in the bottomof your belly THINK this, but I really factually disagree with you. I don't think you've made a good case at all and I think I've explained quite clearly why my position is the most rational, most moral, most obvious, most biblical and most Godly. I TRULY believe it, just like you truly believe your position. I do NOT "know" your position is biblical or right.

First of all, do you understand how very irrational and arrogant it is for you to insist you know what I think better than I do? To hell with that bullshit, little man.

Beyond that, that's not what I asked (if you REALLY think that I REALLY don't believe what I am telling you I believe). I'm asking you if you acknowledge...

"that it's possible to be sincerely mistaken AND in rebellion... and just not know it..."?

Same for the rest of your nonsensical, emotionally fragile, delusional "answers" to questions that I didn't ask and dodging the questions I DID ask.

But I get the point. You're delusional. You're so emotionally fragile and intellectually childish that you can't understand that people can actually disagree with you at least on some points. You THINK - against all data - that because you've made your case that you think is sound, that people then recognize that you're right... because YOU REALLY believe it.

I don't know how to help you. Your intellectual cowardice is making you delusional.

Good luck and look both ways before you cross the street and remember not to touch a hot stove.

Lord have mercy.

Marshal Art said...

April 16, 2022 at 10:27 PM

"I don't think you've made a good case at all..."

So you say, but "Nyuh uh" isn't a convincing argument against it.

"...and I think I've explained quite clearly why my position is the most rational, most moral, most obvious, most biblical and most Godly."

No. No you haven't. Your position has yet to include evidence from Scripture that is not a tortured corruption of the verses you've chosen for the task. It's mental to suppose you can just offer a verse and say it means something the words in the verse do not at all convey. Your laughable defense of same-sex "marriage" is a good example of your bad theology. You haven't even explained how Lev 18:22 doesn't apply to you and yours. If you can't get by that, nothing else about your position on the subject of homosexuality can intelligently be regarded as "rational", "moral" and certainly not "biblical" thus not at all "Godly". But you persist in pretending you've done the job. Totally mental.

"First of all, do you understand how very irrational and arrogant it is for you to insist you know what I think better than I do?"

Not after almost 15 years of blog discussions, no. Indeed, it's an accurate representation of reality based on those discussion, specifically your own words.

"Beyond that, that's not what I asked (if you REALLY think that I REALLY don't believe what I am telling you I believe). I'm asking you if you acknowledge...

"that it's possible to be sincerely mistaken AND in rebellion... and just not know it..."?"


I already told you...the question is irrelevant. Don't ask it again.

"But I get the point. You're delusional. You're so emotionally fragile and intellectually childish that you can't understand that people can actually disagree with you at least on some points."

...says the fake Christian who says Bruce Jenner is a woman. "Emotionally fragile and intellectually childish". That's funny. I've never said people can't actually disagree with me. You do it all the time. That's not at issue, heretic. Feel free to not seek out anywhere I said that so that you can continue to pretend I did when it suits you. "Delusional". Sure.

"I don't know how to help you."

I know. That would require identifying an actual need for help and then demonstrating your the girl for the job.

"Your intellectual cowardice is making you delusional."

That's funny. The putz who can't deal with the fact I provided evidence for the challenge "Of course, the reality is that no actual experts say that being liberal is a mental disorder." is calling me delusional, an intellectual coward, emotionally fragile and childish. Totally validates the premise of this post. It seems your best talent is proving me right.

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

Hell, Glenn doesn't even acknowledge it as a science or acknowledge the notion of "mental health!"

There is nothing scientific about the idea of "mental health." The whole concept is irrational. Are you really so stupid that you can't understand that the mind is intangible and cannot have health issues? SOME emotional/mental issues (not health issues) may be the result of organic medical problems with the brain, but that is "brain health," not "mental health." Otherwise, such problems are a result of poor thinking skills, poor habits, bad choices, etc.

Dan Trabue said...

There you have it. If Glenn doesn't understand it, it doesn't exist to him.

Disordered thinking that denies disordered thinking.

I'd love to see how you'd do in a psychiatric interview.

I bet you've had one and they told you that you weren't emotionally/mentally well and that's one reason why you're so hostile to this well-grounded science. Am I right?

Marshal Art said...

Dan,

Glenn never said, implied or indicated he didn't understand psychology, though I know you believe it helpful to you to say so. The debate regarding whether or not psychology is a science has been going on for decades and decades. Thus, to suggest it is "well-grounded" is simply the opinion of someone who needs it to be, rather than one who can support that suggestion.

I don't necessarily agree with the lengths Glenn goes in opposing the field. I believe there are good people trying to do good work, though most are leftist asshats...particularly those who've done so little to prove the claim that LGBT isn't a disorder.

I also don't believe those considered the "first psychologists" are all pervs. I believe the pervs came later and through their own disordered ways infected the field with nonsense.

In any case, the point has been well supported by my links that the left are mental.