In a recent post by Dan (April 20,2022), an off-topic point was allowed (because of who raised it) and then was demanded that I respond to it. A GOP politician had said at a rally of some kind that Dr. Anthony Fauci should be executed for his crimes if convicted of them in a court of law. Dan feigned outrage, as he is wont to do when a center-right person dares engage in hyperbole. Initially, Dan demanded to know what crimes Fauci had committed. When I offered an example or two, he then moved the goal post to "capital" crimes, which is not unreasonable given the politician had called for execution. So I linked to an article which, with many links within it, spoke of a complaint brought to the International Criminal Court of the many violations of international laws and codes, such as the Nuremberg Code. Among the many charged in this complain was Fauci, and rightly so.
But as usual, Dan deleted the link to the article and responded with a Reuter's link of his own which did not address the complaint of which my link spoke. This proved once again that Dan doesn't read the links of those who oppose him and then lies about it later. Had he scrutinized my link, he could not have offered his unrelated response. Instead, he pretended and continued demanding I present evidence of what he likes to refer to as "stupidly false claims", despite my already having done so. Of course, if he deletes it, he can continue pretending proofs or evidence have not been offered at all, much less presented to directly and distinctly satisfy his challenge.
But that's Dan for ya.
So the question remains, is there anything for which Fauci is deserving of a death penalty? That's debatable without a doubt and subject to our laws. He could indeed be responsible for thousands of deaths and still not be eligible for execution depending on how the case was argue and adjudicated.
But despite Dan's desire to believe such calls are a case of indicting someone due to being a political opponent alone, what Fauci has done, and because those in authority distinctly deferred to him and others like him in crafting policies which led to all manner of public suffering, it would seem to me that he is indeed culpable to a great degree, even if he is NOT executed. Fauci can pretend he only recommended policy. But no one paying attention would pretend he wasn't put in the position of dictating policy which was then implemented as a result of his recommendations. That is to say, those we elected put this un-elected bureaucrat in charge of our lives, and he failed miserably.
Anyway, what exactly can be justly said about Fauci's actions which would justify a severe legal response? The answers to that can be found in the complaint brought before the International Criminal Court. Before I get to it, I must acknowledge it refers to that which is on behalf of the people of the United Kingdom. But it would not at all be a stretch that our own nation could have been a plaintiff as well, possibly as a member of a class action-type of suit. Nonetheless, Fauci is named as an offender in the complaint which I now present:
https://www.riotimesonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/icc-complaint-7-1.pdf
I don't know what's become of this attempt to hold responsible those who have inflicted all this suffering upon the world, and particularly our own people. I've not had the opportunity to focus on it. But nonetheless, it lists in great detail the many actions taken by Fauci and others who should be held accountable, specifically where other options were purposely denied us and where our freedoms were infringed upon.
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The death penalty for Fauci is obviously hyperbole in our country at this point, but the broader message is legitimate. Fauci profited massively with one lie after another and ruined countless lives - literal suicides, lost businesses, childhood development, depression, supply chain issues, and more. He deserves to lose everything, and in most places in history, anyone that evil would expect to lose his head over it.
"At this point". That's an important thing to keep in mind. I would wager against Fauci ever being held to that level of accountability. I would not argue he such a debate shouldn't take place. People are indeed dead because of his recommendations. There's no legit way to insist he was without knowledge or the ability to get it. He chose what he chose for reasons which were not about protecting and preserving lives. There have been far too many highly educated medical professionals who warned against the outcomes too many suffered.
I'll just… it insane? Nuts? Batshit crazy conspiracy theorists??
THIS. This is why it's important to consume reasonable responsible journalism and not nutcases dressing up like play reporters.
And yet, Dan, you do nothing to rebut any of the charges brought forth. Of course, you didn't really read the thing, but you just like to pretend those who oppose you are the daft. Truly responsible journalism requires that which you don't ever freakin' do...indeed they do what your examples of "responsible journalism" never do, either. You're a fraud, Dan.
Look at ALL those nonsense words and STILL not one single crime has been listed. EVEN IF you ignore science and reality and shit and think that Fauci gave bad advice, giving bad advice is not a crime.
WHAT CRIME did he commit?
But my main point remains: You all really need to look to science, experts and responsible journalism instead of the clowns and conspiracy theorists you consume like rotten candy.
"WHAT CRIME did he commit?"
Only an abject moron would expose himself as not reading the complaint by asking such a question. In this country, Fauci is responsible for every policy which has led to all the various suffering experienced by citizens since this virus first appeared, including his help in the creation of the virus through funding for the gain-of-function research. Only an abject moron could (NOT) read the complaint and assert "not one single crime has been listed".
Fauci is deferred to as the primary source of "science" in this country and as such to pretend his failures are mere mistakes or simply "bad advice" is an abhorrent example of rank stupidity by a guy who's stupidity has long been established.
Dan is a joke of a moron, fit only for mockery. One's head spins trying to decide if crap he spews is intentional lie or world class idiocy.
Once again, all Dan can do is pretend and dismiss. He can't respond to any charge with intelligence or reason..."reason"...another word he likes to use as if he understands what it means.
IF the complaint (which I have read in part - I've also read the Unabomber's manifesto - both are equally unhinged) included some actual crime that was reasonable and provable, then ALL you would have to do is post the crime here and show that I was wrong.
That you are entirely unable to post any actual crime here shows how intellectually bankrupt you are. I mean, I SEE that he says Fauci is responsible for "murder," but saying that isn't the same as him having committed murder, which he hasn't.
You're citing an insane person's ramblings and treating them as if they meant something more than the drooling gibberish of a raving madman.
Is THAT what you're talking about? That Fauci is responsible for MURDER?
If so, can't you see that you're being played for a fool? Open your eyes. Read actual sources and not lunatics.
June 1, 2022 at 8:55 PM
"IF the complaint (which I have read in part - I've also read the Unabomber's manifesto - both are equally unhinged) included some actual crime that was reasonable and provable, then ALL you would have to do is post the crime here and show that I was wrong."
"in part"???? What does that mean? A page? A paragraph? You haven't read a thing, or you couldn't question the complaint and dare compare it to the Unabomber manifesto, which no doubt you haven't read, either. The allegations presented in the complaint are not mysterious or unknown and most of it has been reported in one form or another to one degree or another on more than one occasion by multiple news sources. So you're full of shit.
My posting of the complaint satisfies my obligation. Yours is to study it and try to rebut ANY of it is evidence which suggests any of it is false.
Also, liar, there's no "he" that is presenting this, but a female lawyer, so I don't know who "he" is.
Personally, it's a fine line between intentional murder and the abject negligence and deceit which resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths that assholes like you want to write off as "giving bad advice".
Don't try to post a comment until you've actually read the link and done your own research you lazy assed liar. When you can find true fault...to the extent I've found with YOUR sources...then you can disparage better people than you. Until then, condescend to other lefties. They're the only people toward whom you might have some standing to do so.
Your link is 40 pages of conspiratorial rambling. Think I'm making it up?
CITE ANY EXPERT OR RATIONAL PERSON, ANY LAWYER, ANY SCHOLAR IN THE KNOW WHO IS TALKING ABOUT THIS AS IF IT WERE SERIOUS.
I'll wait.
As to the lawyer being a woman, my bad. I made an assumption. So many of these rambling conservative psychos are men that I forget there are plenty of crazy conservative women out there, too (Marjorie "Peach Tree Dish" Taylor Green, etc).
Nice dodge. Try rebutting any of the "rambling" you insist exists in the complaint. I'll wait here while you again pretend to know better.
You know, I never once tried to rebut the unabomber in his ramblings. I'll pass on dealing with this lunatic, too.
Let me know if you ever have any real experts who raise a concern.
In the meantime, get help. You're lost in a sea of toxic emotionality and irrationality.
Another weak dodge from the guy who rambles about Trump being the most corrupt president ever.
This isn't the only group of people looking for legal relief in this manner. Apparently only "psychos" are concerned about the harm forced "vaccinations" with experimental drugs have caused so many thousands of people:
https://asmaa-algarve.org/covid-19/court-actions-icc/covid-19-complaint-of-violation-of-nuremberg-code-against-israeli-government-accepted-by-the-hague-court
https://asmaa-algarve.org/covid-19/court-actions-international/usa-breaking-news-fraud-allegations-against-pfizer
https://asmaa-algarve.org/covid-19/court-actions-icc/uk-request-for-investigation-submitted-to-the-international-criminal-court-icc
Not all of these name Fauci, nor did I even take the time to peruse the details of who is being named in these suits and legal actions. But they're all of a similar nature and like the initial claim I posted, which Dan has never read, none of them are filed by "psychos", nor would anyone even report on such a thing if only "psychos" were involved, nor would we be likely to see the Hague give "psychos" the time of day.
Dan asked for the crimes with which Fauci could be legitimately charged. I provided. Dan now slinks away and pretends there's no substance to rebut. He never read the complaint, and given the size of the Unabomber's manifesto, there's no way he read that, either.
https://asmaa-algarve.org
You have the absolute weirdest links.
"ASMAA upholds the universal human rights of all people, including the right to education, health, food, water, housing, work, as well as other economic, social and cultural rights that are essential to human dignity."
So you're opposed to these things now and find those who still work toward these ends as "weird". Got it.
You're a moron.
Did you watch the hearing? Oh. Of course not it wasn't covered by Fox. Plenty of evidence there.
So you're doing stand-up now? I would have, but all the major cable news networks were playing some kind of comedy show.
Get serious, Vinny. They have nothing important they'll uncover. They're out to attack Trump supporters for being Trump supporters. Nothing more, nothing less. Don't be a useful idiot.
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