tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post9202889768253702839..comments2024-03-28T19:11:42.225-05:00Comments on Marshal Art's: Of Course Obama's A SocialistMarshal Arthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-34519702568453866562010-07-29T10:39:12.183-05:002010-07-29T10:39:12.183-05:00lollolParklifenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-47233759790894819072010-07-28T10:47:30.785-05:002010-07-28T10:47:30.785-05:00Parkster,
I never said ONLY homos tea-bag. But i...Parkster,<br /><br />I never said ONLY homos tea-bag. But it's a homo term and it was NOT any Tea Party advocate that applied it to Tea Party supporters. It was a leftist, most of whom are homo enablers if not homo themselves. But as the hateful cretin you appear to be, you avoid actually keeping abreast of such things and prefer to just talk trash. <br /><br />And you are certainly equally uninformed about Obama's background and proposals to believe that socialism isnt' a term appropriately applied. You really should spend a little time learning about a topic or risk exposing yourself as a total fool. Oops! Too late!Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-45226205105770176672010-07-28T10:23:02.733-05:002010-07-28T10:23:02.733-05:00Marshy,
I'm not sure why you think only homos...Marshy,<br /><br />I'm not sure why you think only homosexuals are able to tea bag. It seems that a homo-phobic group has named themselves after this sex act. One day, you may grow a pair. Then you would be able to tea bag Mom2 all day. <br /><br />Dare to dream. <br /><br />This "BHO is a socialist" argument might be the dumbest thing you have done since your last post... or the one before that.. or the one before that...Parklifenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-14847570641329823652010-07-26T15:42:29.064-05:002010-07-26T15:42:29.064-05:00Parky,
Why bring homosexuals into the discussion...Parky, <br /><br />Why bring homosexuals into the discussion? And how do you know none of them are racist?<br /><br />But Obama? Definitely socialist. You deny his own words.Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-67665495178815767532010-07-26T13:15:02.352-05:002010-07-26T13:15:02.352-05:00Tea Baggers... not racist
BHO... not socialistTea Baggers... not racist<br /><br />BHO... not socialistParklifenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-37600399336451425642010-07-26T12:13:36.736-05:002010-07-26T12:13:36.736-05:00I mean that we wouldn't agree.I mean that we wouldn't agree.Martyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02908921670853665703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-88852976980129092312010-07-26T12:12:26.543-05:002010-07-26T12:12:26.543-05:00I'm not the one who swerved off topic Marshall...I'm not the one who swerved off topic Marshall. Mom2 is a fusspot who likes to drive by and make little snippy comments about which she knows nothing about, especially the personal lives of others. I should have ignored her.<br /><br />I am not a complete Socialist. I do believe in private ownership. But I would like to see Medicare expanded to include every American citizen. I do believe that is a right to life issue. I knew going into this that we would agree, but thanks for reading my links and commenting on them. I really have nothing left to say on this topic.<br /><br />Later.Martyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02908921670853665703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-28907978689807138652010-07-26T11:44:56.272-05:002010-07-26T11:44:56.272-05:00Normally, like most guys, I enjoy a good cat fight...Normally, like most guys, I enjoy a good cat fight. But I'd prefer you two keep yours related to the topic at hand. It is true that some churches go outside their own for employees. Ours considered that and then decided not hire at all. <br /><br />Marty,<br /><br />You can post links to as many opinions as you want. Thus far, none of them have proven wrong our point of view regarding Barry's socialist tendencies. There's just too much proof of it from his own mouth to say otherwise and the fact that he hasn't had the stones or opportunity to go whole hog is irrelevant. He knows he wouldn't get far trying to be himself totally and that is evidenced by how little "real" socialists (by your reckoning) have been able to achieve in this country. If Barry shows any smarts at all (assuming he's actually trying), it's in knowing he has to move in baby steps more often than not. It's the only way he can truly continue to sucker people into supporting more leftward moves. The only question is, are there enough suckers amongst voters to allow it to happen? Considering he was elected at all, it's obvious that the rest of us cannot rest on our laurels. <br /><br />To argue this point any further is proving to be a waste of time (more so than blogging in general) since you lefties won't accept reality. It's clear you resist all attempts to help you do so. You want him to say "I'm a socialist and will do all I can to make America a socialist nation." But such statements are about all he hasn't done. <br /><br />I don't much care who feels the label is appropriate or not. It's enough for me to know that he's about as close to any number of failed socialist states as I hope to ever again see in this country. <br /><br />That you, Marty, feel he's not socialist enough for your tastes, and that you would like to see MORE socialism speaks very poorly for you. That anyone would wish that upon their fellow Americans is shameful. I prefer better.Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-82070077588590035052010-07-26T10:54:36.519-05:002010-07-26T10:54:36.519-05:00Marty, That should make you feel pretty good about...Marty, That should make you feel pretty good about the Church you work for then. Some comments from your past have not been so complimentary of them, however. mom2Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-80661604467141244502010-07-26T10:34:07.307-05:002010-07-26T10:34:07.307-05:00FYI mom2, the Baptist church where I work hired me...FYI mom2, the Baptist church where I work hired me twenty years ago because I wasn't a member there. They want it that way. They've had problems in the past with secretaries who were members taking sides in conflicts. They have no problem with me being a Methodist. They even know why I switched and understand. Your little attempt to demonize me has left you looking like a fool.Martyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02908921670853665703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-91759879644213175642010-07-26T09:55:36.897-05:002010-07-26T09:55:36.897-05:00Does someone who disassociates themselves with a d...Does someone who disassociates themselves with a denomination because of distaste for their beliefs, but continues to draw a paycheck from denomination that they detest fit into the same category as the previously mentioned politicians? mom2Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-85801051314834557372010-07-26T09:51:50.399-05:002010-07-26T09:51:50.399-05:00Marty,
"If you ain't repbulican then you...Marty,<br /><br /><i>"If you ain't repbulican then you're a socialist. Is that how it works? Well I can point you to democrats who think if you're not a democrat then your a fascist. It's just two sides of the same damn coin."</i><br /><br />That's a bit simplistic to say the least, but it is also a pointed difference between both sides. This side at least uses appropriate labeling. As mentioned before, fascism is the extreme of leftism. It is beyond socialism on the leftward scale. So even if we're being "alarmist", we're at least using the right words. The left has been improperly assigning the fascist label to the right for quite awhile.<br /><br />But more specifically (as well as more seriously), it would be more accurate to say that if one is not a capitalist then one is a socialist. In Barry's case, he's a socialist that says (can't say I've seen him "do") capitalist things. Yet, we can see clearly that anything center-left does indeed look to expand the role of government into the affairs of men and private enterprise rather than to implement policies that promote free market activity. It looks to consolidate power in the central government to whatever degree a given lefty believes is best.Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-55947409517468941422010-07-26T09:50:54.668-05:002010-07-26T09:50:54.668-05:00"Marty, I was a Democrat for many, many years..."Marty, I was a Democrat for many, many years. Grew up in a family of Democrats on both sides of my family, married a man with the same kind of background and now, neither of us are Democrats. I'm a conservative. mom2"<br /><br />So?Martyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02908921670853665703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-31811433076014766732010-07-26T09:49:44.060-05:002010-07-26T09:49:44.060-05:00According to GM the government has a "hands o...According to GM the government has a "hands off" approach.<br /><br />Marshall, Obama is a socialist only <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/13/AR2009031301899.html" rel="nofollow">"in the imaginations of an odd assortment of conservatives"</a>. That includes you and your clueless cronies here.Martyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02908921670853665703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-2272882862231205682010-07-26T09:41:18.318-05:002010-07-26T09:41:18.318-05:00Marty, I was a Democrat for many, many years. Gre...Marty, I was a Democrat for many, many years. Grew up in a family of Democrats on both sides of my family, married a man with the same kind of background and now, neither of us are Democrats. I'm a conservative. mom2Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-82466649926967109572010-07-26T09:39:18.749-05:002010-07-26T09:39:18.749-05:00Marty,
Again, you are, like Dan, insisting on a v...Marty,<br /><br />Again, you are, like Dan, insisting on a very narrow definition that eliminates those who are not "socialist enough" to satisfy either you or that definition. But when the guy's whole life is spent at the feet of socialist/marxist chuckleheads, and as president he inserts the federal government in places it doesn't belong, to deny the leanings of this guy because he doesn't satisfy that definition to the letter is quibbling about semantics and denial.<br /><br />One guy in your article suggests that the ownership stake in GM, for example, is temporary. Aside from the fact that it should never have been allowed to take place (a perfect place for SCOTUS to state the unConstitutional nature of the action had anyone brought it to them to decide), we need to see them get their asses out of GM in order to make that case. While they still have ownership, the move can only be described as a gov't take over of the kind one expects from a socialist.Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-23960218541244834612010-07-26T09:35:58.242-05:002010-07-26T09:35:58.242-05:00Mom2, are you talking about democrats? If so, it&...Mom2, are you talking about democrats? If so, it's like the pot calling the kettle black. We are supposed to have a two party system in this country, but frankly, I can't tell a hairs difference between the two and the crap you mentioned is a plague in both of them. You have been blinded by partisanship. If you ain't repbulican then you're a socialist. Is that how it works? Well I can point you to democrats who think if you're not a democrat then your a fascist. It's just two sides of the same damn coin. Makes me sick.Martyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02908921670853665703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-13055731824689305702010-07-26T09:28:38.165-05:002010-07-26T09:28:38.165-05:00Jim asked elsewhere for evidence that socialism ha...Jim asked elsewhere for evidence that socialism has always failed. <a href="http://debatepedia.idebate.org/en/index.php/Argument:_Capitalism_is_more_successful_than_socialism_historically" rel="nofollow">This link</a> has two articles that serves the purpose.Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-44407045613063693372010-07-26T09:24:51.883-05:002010-07-26T09:24:51.883-05:00What do you call the party that is all for raising...What do you call the party that is all for raising taxes on the rich, while members of said party evidently do not call themselves rich and cheat on their taxes, park their ultra-expensive yachts in another state to avoid taxes, and the list goes on and on. Rental property unreported, misuse of public facilities for parking, you get the idea. mom2Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-79465715021872412702010-07-26T01:18:34.024-05:002010-07-26T01:18:34.024-05:00"I am inclined to believe your support of &qu..."I am inclined to believe your support of "progressivism"/socialism is born out of ignorance (or hatred) of history and our constitution."<br /><br />Yeah. Right. Whatever. <br /><br />The <br /><a href="http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2010/0701/Is-Obama-a-socialist-What-does-the-evidence-say" rel="nofollow">evidence</a> says something different. <br /><br />You guys don't have a clue. You're just a bunch of disgruntled saps who have fallen prey the likes of Beck and Limbaugh.Martyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02908921670853665703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-51288193741974594612010-07-25T12:41:30.284-05:002010-07-25T12:41:30.284-05:00Marty that link was mostly garbage. It doesn'...Marty that link was mostly garbage. It doesn't take into account that we have three branches of government. Like many "progressives" the author doesn't understand how government works. Most importunely it doesn't even address that fact the the President doesn't legislate. For those on the left that big word means he can't introduce laws. <br /><br />I am inclined to believe your support of "progressivism"/socialism is born out of ignorance (or hatred) of history and our constitution. Why else would you follow a philosophy that is named after a undefined euphemismEdwin Droodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07734335669101499685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-36194909943805950002010-07-25T12:40:22.194-05:002010-07-25T12:40:22.194-05:00Get real, Marty. Scanning your link's list, w...Get real, Marty. Scanning your link's list, we can plainly see that it is comprised of things that Obama HAS tried to do, would try to do if he thought he could get away with it, or has done to a lesser degree than the schmuck writing the article would prefer. Again, you fail to see reality and like Dan, refuse to call evil by it's name simply because it isn't as evil as you want it to be. <br /><br /><br />Barry hasn't nationized the banks, but that's not because he wouldn't prefer to. In the meantime, however, he boldly attempts to dictate to these private businesses how they should be run and how much their execs should be paid. Totally socialistic/fascistic.<br /><br /><i>"I wish Obama would have proposed redistributing income from the wealthy to those who really need it by raising the marginal income tax, and the capital gains tax, and the estate tax."</i><br /><br />He is entirely for wealth redistribution. The proposal above will kill our economy as it always does. Rank stupidity to suggest that any president implement such proposals.<br /><br /><i>"I wish Obama would have proposed raising the minimum wage to $10 an hour, as Ralph Nader has proposed."</i><br /><br />Another job killing move. When will socialist jerks start businesses of their own so that they can pay as much as they want and find out what it does to their bottom line. We've already seen that the last raises in minimum wage has cost jobs that students could have had, or second jobs for others, or unskilled positions for many others, including former retired people who find they need to continue working. <br /><br /><i>"I wish Obama would have proposed a public works program to put every American who needs a job to work."</i><br /><br />This is incredibly stupid. They want to raise taxes to employ the people who lost jobs, or cannot find jobs, due to the burden taxes have placed on business. Here's a better idea: lower taxes permanently so that businesses can feel confident enough to expand and hire. Socialist idiocy!<br /><br /><i>"I wish Obama would have addressed the cruel problem of poverty in America."</i><br /><br />He has. And he is looking to address it again by allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire. This will help poverty by increasing it. Can't have enough poverty, can we, socialists? Poverty can only be resolved in two ways: allow business to flourish (can't be done with excessive taxation and regulation), and insist that individuals adopt better behaviors conducive to attaining a more financially sound life.<br /><br />I could go on. And on. Rothschild has his head buried deeply up his own backside. He goes on to say what "decent" socialists would do. First of all, there is no such thing. Socialism isn't "decent" in any way, shape or form. And of course he can't finish up without a word about "obscene" salaries. How dare anyone suggest they can speak on the good fortunes of others except to say "good for them"? Only a socialist has the audacity to hope they can dictate what is an appropriate level of success for anyone else. Greedy and envious bastards. And Obama is one of them.Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-59876793663056842222010-07-25T01:05:45.504-05:002010-07-25T01:05:45.504-05:00"How about Obama? Do you think he's a soc..."How about Obama? Do you think he's a socialist? Why or Why not?"<br /><br />That question has been answered in the link I provided.Martyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02908921670853665703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-72171260246580478402010-07-24T23:08:30.771-05:002010-07-24T23:08:30.771-05:00I do generally think it best if Dan and I stay out...I do generally think it best if Dan and I stay out of each other's way, but I'm willing to make an exception to point out the hilarious.<br /><br />The American Thinker piece was prompted initially by a poll by the polling group Democracy Corps -- a liberal group co-organized by James Carville.<br /><br />As NRO summarizes the <a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/230874/55-percent-likely-voters-find-socialist-accurate-label-obama" rel="nofollow">poll,</a> "55 percent of likely voters think 'socialist' is a reasonably accurate way of describing Obama."<br /><br />Ahem.<br /><br />In the case of Obama, Dan must think that the majority of Americans are stupid and he is in the tiny minority who gets it "right."<br /><br />Like dictionary definitions, the writings of the Founding Fathers, and even the Bible, public opinion is important to Dan only when it's useful -- when it fit his agenda or can be twisted into suiting his purposes.Bubbanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-15346182393697717072010-07-24T21:12:56.771-05:002010-07-24T21:12:56.771-05:00So Dan we now know your opinion on FDR. How about...So Dan we now know your opinion on FDR. How about Obama? Do you think he's a socialist? Why or Why not?Edwin Droodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07734335669101499685noreply@blogger.com