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In the meantime, with your every post, you demonstrate that you are not the Christian you claim to be. Indeed, it is crystal clear. Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-49622709729753893892014-08-20T15:53:58.060-05:002014-08-20T15:53:58.060-05:00http://sfbayview.com/2014/08/mike-brown-appears-to...http://sfbayview.com/2014/08/mike-brown-appears-to-have-paid-for-those-cigars/<br /><br />And... The merchant never called the police. Because it wasn't a robbery, you presumptive racist thug.<br /><br />Capri had a lot of rain today.Feodorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216659885831979653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-29608077868822169892014-08-19T17:45:00.811-05:002014-08-19T17:45:00.811-05:00feo has the audacity to call others "fools&qu...feo has the audacity to call others "fools". He constantly behaves in a manner that belies his claims of being a Christian, a seminary grad, a teacher of the faith. <br /><br />But, I haven't seen any footage showing Brown paying for anything. I've looked and haven't found any but the same clip showing him pushing around the much smaller store clerk. Apparently, we're not to assume anything about such a person even with this evidence. But, if feo has a clip showing him paying, he should present it. <br /><br />What's more, I never said anything but that the clip shows him pushing around the clerk. How this makes me a racist thug, even a race baiter like feo couldn't explain.<br /><br />feo loves stories like that that he can join in in twisting it into an example of racism and police brutality. He needs to perpetuate the stereotypes of a John Bull police force because he cannot speak to the real issues plaguing the black community. He isn't capable. Thus, that community will continue to suffer due to the enabling of idiots like him.Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-91536239731497438252014-08-19T08:50:12.074-05:002014-08-19T08:50:12.074-05:00With all the lies Feo tells, are we really suppose...With all the lies Feo tells, are we really supposed to believe he goes on all these trips, who is wife is (if he is even married) or anything else he claims about his life?!?!? <br /><br />The man uses a pseudonym so he can't be checked. He is a foolish false priest not to be trust with anything he says.Glenn E. Chatfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-22494738992981572382014-08-19T00:20:16.506-05:002014-08-19T00:20:16.506-05:00Except to say that the video shows young Mr Brown,...Except to say that the video shows young Mr Brown, of course, paying for his 50 cent cigars, Marshall, you racist thug.Feodorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216659885831979653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-72220515828199749692014-08-19T00:09:45.699-05:002014-08-19T00:09:45.699-05:00Sorry, can't joust with fools. Off to Capri fo...Sorry, can't joust with fools. Off to Capri for a week and then Rome for a few days with my dusky skinned wife. Expecting great food at Renata and Louisa in Rome. Ciao, o ye of little, grey -and cold protestant worlds.Feodorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216659885831979653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-75076044612978900702014-08-18T17:39:29.892-05:002014-08-18T17:39:29.892-05:00Wow! Can your fraudulent nature be more exposed t...Wow! Can your fraudulent nature be more exposed than by the posting of this incredibly biased report? I don't think so. "False priest" apparently doesn't go far enough in describing the extremely low character of feo!<br /><br />How unsurprising that feo finds value in the statement from a people who send their children to blow themselves up in order to kill civilian Israelis! How unsurprising that he regards rioters in Missouri as "oppressed people". <br /><br />To feo, this is how it works: perceived "oppression" (that is, real or imagined) is best addressed by destroying the property of one's own neighbors and stealing their stuff. <br /><br />This Ferguson case appears to be merely another example of someone choosing to ignore the request of a law enforcement officer (one who is highly regarded) and then whining about what results. This all could have been avoided had Brown simply acted like a law-abiding citizen in response to the officer who shot him. But since the store video suggests he was not beyond suspicion, he acted like a guilty person and is now dead as a result. The protestors are not justified in their protests. <br /><br />And feo is not justified in his opinions that the people of Ferguson and the Pallies are "oppressed". What a sorry, pathetic individual he is!Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-44650258206578144432014-08-18T11:08:56.773-05:002014-08-18T11:08:56.773-05:00http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/rana-baker/pal...http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/rana-baker/palestinians-express-solidarity-people-ferguson-mike-brown-statement<br /><br />Of course. All oppressed people recognize each other. Like the right thinking Jews and Palestinians recognize each other.<br />________________<br /><br />Istanbul was fantastic! Muslims and Christians, Buddhists and Confucians all seeing the sights together and hosted by incredibly friendly Turks.<br /><br />Vision of heaven.Feodorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216659885831979653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-51878477566617210242014-08-09T02:28:51.664-05:002014-08-09T02:28:51.664-05:00That's about the size of it.That's about the size of it.Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-92154379599061134742014-08-08T17:39:43.972-05:002014-08-08T17:39:43.972-05:00I heard a great statement today, I'll paraphra...I heard a great statement today, I'll paraphrase.<br /><br />There are two kinds of people, combatants and non combatants. Israel, in targeting combatants, inadvertently causes non combatant casualties. While Hamas intentionally targets non combatants.<br /><br /><br />Not to mention hides behind non combatants as more and more videos from Gaza are showing. <br /><br />Unfortunately Hamas won't attack the Israeli combatants, won't protect it's own non combatants, while targeting Israeli non combatants. While expecting everyone to buy into the exact opposite.<br /><br />Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17149415942585847184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-10335334796989751852014-08-07T11:22:47.256-05:002014-08-07T11:22:47.256-05:00MA,
I don't totally disagree with you. I jus...MA,<br /><br />I don't totally disagree with you. I just think that the fact that the Muslim nations surrounding Israel have treated that "palestinians" worse than Israel has, while placing the blame on Israel is a factor that can't be ignored.<br /><br />How many thousands of these people went to Jordan, where they were put in camps, kept in camps, and are (or their descendents( still in camps. Why is there a demand that Israel grant this mass of people citizenship, while Jordan (and other countries) refuse?<br /><br />Anyway, I just wouldn't be quick to broad brush an entire group of people. Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17149415942585847184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-2848622404802464302014-08-06T08:04:40.611-05:002014-08-06T08:04:40.611-05:00Well, I think it's not too massive a stretch t...Well, I think it's not too massive a stretch to say we cannot be too confident either way as to the innocence or complicity of the "average" Pallie. I just think at some point, we'd hear something about some faction within that population that is serious about freeing themselves from all that manipulation, someone to whom it would make sense to support with both arms and money. At this point, I don't see anything remotely resembling such a faction. We've seen it before, just not with these people. Thus, I suspect they are more on the side of complicity than pure victimhood. I'd really like to see somebody step up. It has to come from within.Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-86291841218571131772014-08-05T23:25:25.782-05:002014-08-05T23:25:25.782-05:00MA,
I think that if you look at the history, the ...MA,<br /><br />I think that if you look at the history, the manipulation of the "Palestinians' by the various nations and organizations is just appalling. From the moment the various leaders told them to vacate Israel so the Jews could be wiped out, they've been marginalized and manipulated for the benefit of others. <br /><br />I agree with your observations, I just think that given past history, I'd be slow to lump the man on the street in with the leaders.<br /><br />Just my opinion.Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17149415942585847184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-41036530062133692292014-08-05T17:44:41.289-05:002014-08-05T17:44:41.289-05:00Craig,
While I can appreciate the sentiment that ...Craig,<br /><br />While I can appreciate the sentiment that there's a difference between a people and their leaders or rulers, I don't know that it necessarily applies here. At least not to the extent that their defenders would suggest. They appear, by and large, far more in tune with the goals of Hamas, or even Fatah or the PLO, for my taste. As I mentioned earlier, I still remember the dancing in the streets on 9/11, and I the videos I saw included many women amongst the celebrants. They seem quite willing to send their children with suicide vests. They seem overjoyed at the murder of Jews and the "martyrdom" of their own. I don't think it takes a genius to see the danger of having Hamas place weapons batteries and ammo dumps amongst the civilian population and neighborhoods, in their schools, hospitals and mosques. In addition, I've never heard of any faction within the palestinian civilian population that seeks assistance in fighting against Hamas on their own, as we saw in Iran (which Obama ignored). No. What seems to be the case is complicity on the part of the average pallie citizen. To what extent is hard to say with accuracy, but it does seem to me to be far more than a what a loving family could tolerate.<br /><br />No doubt the citizens are likely under the thumb of the more deadly muslims, but how many of them are actually looking to get out from under it? That's the question for me and I haven't even heard the question asked. All we get is the rhetoric that they are an oppressed people victimized by Israel and their own leaders. When I hear of anything akin to an uprising of these people against Hamas or the MB, then I'll feel there is reason to reassess. <br /><br />I will say, however, that I do hope such is true of the "ordinary" pallie. I just think it is not in Israel's interest, or ours, to assume any such thing based on their history.Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-61373231484943072272014-08-05T13:06:00.887-05:002014-08-05T13:06:00.887-05:00MA,
A thought just hit me about your title to thi...MA,<br /><br />A thought just hit me about your title to this post.<br /><br />While I agree with the general sentiment, I'd suggest that it's not the "Palestinians" who are the problem. The problem is the PLO or Hamas or the Muslim Brotherhood or any of the militant terrorist groups. In reality these groups probably treat the ordinary "Palestinians" worse than Israel ever has. <br /><br />I realize it's a bit nit picky, but it's probably worth making the distinction.Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17149415942585847184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-74495673350356916902014-08-05T10:19:03.423-05:002014-08-05T10:19:03.423-05:00Here's one for Feo:
http://townhall.com/colum...Here's one for Feo:<br /><br />http://townhall.com/columnists/michellemoshelian/2014/08/05/critical-of-israel-then-you-do-better-at-getting-rid-of-hamas-without-harming-any-palestinians-n1874465/page/fullGlenn E. Chatfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-90365110034824741442014-08-05T09:55:50.193-05:002014-08-05T09:55:50.193-05:00For someone who was quick to point out that he had...For someone who was quick to point out that he had to leave this conversation, it's interesting to see how he just can't leave.<br /><br />Of course, he also had to point out the he (and his black wife) are jetting off to Europe to go hobnob with Robin Leach or whatever. Must be nice to have the time and disposable income.<br /><br />One can't forget that the fact that Feo is married to a black woman gives his some sort of assumed superiority in his mind. Next thing you know he'll tell us she's Palestinian as well.<br /><br />FYI, there is a great interview with a representative of Hamas out there where he is asked about the whole "wipe Israel off the map" part of their charter, his response is a masterpiece of failing to actually answer the question while managing to blame everyone else but Hamas.<br /><br /><br /><br />In a spirit of fairness, I will agree with a couple of things Feo seems to be saying.<br /><br />1. IF the destruction of the UN site is demonstrated to be the fault of Israel, (especially if it was intentional) then Israel should do whatever is needed to make restitution. I would say the same about the power plant.<br /><br />2. I also agree that Israel (and Egypt) should loosen the restrictions on Gaza. <br /><br />However I have some concerns about #2.<br /><br />a. There needs to be a legitimate government that can enforce laws, borders, etc in place and recognized by the international community.<br /><br />b. There would need to be an immediate and total cessation of all attacks across the border from both sides.<br /><br />c. Hamas, must be disarmed, and disbanded.<br /><br />d. There would need to be some mechanism in place that would allow swift and decisive action in the even of continued attacks from Gaza into Israel, as well as delineated sanctions against Israel in the event of an unprovoked attack into Gaza.<br /><br />Personally, I suspect that Israel could wash her hands of Gaza tomorrow, give Hamas everything they ask for, and it wouldn't do a thing to stop the rocket, mortar, and suicide bomber attacks. Again, I find it somewhat ironic that the pacifist left says violence never works, yet they support Hamas getting what they want as a result of violence.Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17149415942585847184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-37161306983079566692014-08-05T08:22:28.093-05:002014-08-05T08:22:28.093-05:00Note feo's muslim quote of August 4, 2014 at 5...Note feo's muslim quote of August 4, 2014 at 5:47 PM, as well as this:<br /><br /><i>"The Quran claims that Muslims take their place ALONG WITH Jews and Christians in salvation because all three believe in the one God"</i><br /><br />feo hasn't the intelligence, or perhaps it's his famous lack of honesty (hard to tell---it could be both) to see the obvious problem. What islam is teaching is based on <i>their</i> understanding of their god. Jews and Christians DO NOT believe in the same God, just as feo doesn't believe in the One True God of Judeo-Christian tradition. The God of Jews and Christians is NOT the same god of the muslims. The only way Jews and Christians can believe in the same god as muslims is to convert to islam. This is easy for a fake and a false priest like feo, but for those truly devoted to their faith, not so much. Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-88616788332150908392014-08-04T20:54:04.419-05:002014-08-04T20:54:04.419-05:00"Yes, Craig, that's exactly what the whol..."Yes, Craig, that's exactly what the whole world has been missing for the middle east all these many decades, a simple strait forward answer."<br /><br />This is why it is pointless to have conversations of this sort with people like Feo and Dan.<br /><br />I quite clearly asked Feo a simple direct question, for which he should have been able to provide a simple direct answer. <br /><br />Not only did he choose not to answer the question asked, he then decided to misrepresent both my original question as well as my response to his non answer.<br /><br />Frustrating, yes. Surprising, no.<br /><br /><br /><br />One must, however, find dome level of irony in the whole Finnish reporter witnesses rockets being fired from a hospital, then complaining when people pick up the story and widely report it. It makes one wonder how much of the "news reporting" which folks like Feo use to reinforce their preconceptions is really anywhere close to accurate.<br />Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17149415942585847184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-65574970159528259532014-08-04T18:16:40.858-05:002014-08-04T18:16:40.858-05:00Here's information about how innocent Feo'...Here's information about how innocent Feo's heroes the Hamas are:<br />http://www.idfblog.com/blog/2014/08/04/captured-hamas-combat-manual-explains-benefits-human-shields/Glenn E. Chatfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-67459581577204368912014-08-04T18:11:47.603-05:002014-08-04T18:11:47.603-05:00Try reading this one, FEO:
http://www.americanthi...Try reading this one, FEO:<br /><br />http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/07/what_does_hamas_want.html<br /><br />And how about we cite all the chronologically later surahs in the Qur'an after Mohammed was angry with the Jews for not accepting him as a prophet?Glenn E. Chatfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-38673332807776443772014-08-04T18:09:21.669-05:002014-08-04T18:09:21.669-05:00Feo the ass has libeled me again. With as many li...Feo the ass has libeled me again. With as many lies as he tells, he must be a tool of Satan.<br /><br />I am NOT a "militant Christian" - never have been. Nor am I a "racist hater" <br /><br />And he really has no clue about what Islam really teaches - he just spews the same old media propaganda. I've read the Qur'an and much Hadith. <br /><br />Islam has one agenda - the subjugation of the world. Enablers like Feo and his Idol Obama are part of the problem.Glenn E. Chatfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-63441165650337278842014-08-04T17:50:17.919-05:002014-08-04T17:50:17.919-05:00There is no, as yet, widespread acceptance of any ...There is no, as yet, widespread acceptance of any changes to the Hamas charter. As islam allows for lies to be told in support of islamic goals, one must take anything Hamas says with a grain of salt and a wait and see attitude. This is the attitude currently held by those like Netanyahu, who understand the character of Israel's foes.<br /><br />Finding cases of Israeli acts of violence does not change the equation at all, especially since nothing said here by me, Craig or Glenn suggest absolute angelic perfection in the whole of Israel. That would be of the type of deceitfulness you find so compelling in your cherry-picked links to less than common occurrences. Are their Israelis who have come to hate anyone who even looks like those who have for decades carried out unprovoked attacks on the Israeli population? No doubt, and only a liar like yourself, feo, would suggest anyone here has tried to state otherwise. <br /><br />What is true is the history of the region as has been presented here as the impetus for the strife in this region and the fact of islamic, "palestinian" and Hamas hatred for Israel and its people. Is that hatred absolute throughout the whole of even Gaza, much less the muslim world? Again, only you would suggest that such reflects the position of those of us in support of Israel over the illegitimate claims and demands of those calling themselves "Palestinians". <br /><br />There's no dancing going on here that isn't done by you. There is no lying or hype or spinning of the realities of the situation being done by anyone but you and other Jew haters who see only the results of Pallie behavior and insist on calling it Israeli oppression. You support the lie. <br /><br />The fact remains. Of the two people, only one side is in danger of constant attack by the other. Only one side is victimized by the widespread hatred of the other. It is not the Pallies, who are in their situation because of the the actions of their leaders and the civilians who support them. To pretend that a nation like Israel should withstand constant attacks upon its people and remain Christlike in their response is idiocy of the highest order, and if there is anyone uniquely qualified to be a useful idiot for the pro-Pallie cause, it is you. Rational people are not surprised that there would exist among the Israelis both the extremely fed up as well as the self-loathing you cite as expert sources on the reality of the situation. Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-24779478635942935322014-08-04T17:47:47.693-05:002014-08-04T17:47:47.693-05:00[2.62] Surely those who believe, and those who are...[2.62] Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve.Feodorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216659885831979653noreply@blogger.com