tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post5162987777545000876..comments2024-03-19T00:45:01.922-05:00Comments on Marshal Art's: So Here We AreMarshal Arthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-85545595349881263512017-01-01T06:54:18.894-06:002017-01-01T06:54:18.894-06:00Well, Craig, Dan's a strange dude, so it shoul...Well, Craig, Dan's a strange dude, so it shouldn't seem strange that he'd say something...uh...strange.<br /><br />Dan looks at a Trump vote as an opportunity to posture himself as one on the moral high ground from which he can berate the Trump voter for not voting for Hillary or some other person who wouldn't have won. <br />Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-60273578984163794392016-12-31T19:12:50.753-06:002016-12-31T19:12:50.753-06:00I find the attitude that voting for Trump automati...I find the attitude that voting for Trump automatically means endorsing any and all actions he's ever engaged in strange. Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17149415942585847184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-50921239427638630562016-12-27T10:09:07.381-06:002016-12-27T10:09:07.381-06:00"Repent fellows. Open your eyes to the perver...<i>"Repent fellows. Open your eyes to the perversion you're actually passing on and recognize its evil nature and repent, turn from these deviant ways and TO the ways of Christ, the Lord you hope to follow."</i><br /><br />We've done nothing in preventing Hillary's win that requires our repentance. We did all we could to promote and support better people for president, but Trump won the party nomination. I'm not going to let the country go to hell in a handbag with Obama 2.0 Hillary Clinton, who is clearly a far worse individual than Donald Trump on his worst day.<br /><br />You have no standing to dare suggest that anyone here needs to open their eyes to perversion. You support and celebrate it. We not only discourage it, but recognize the character flaws of Trump and have spoken out against it, voted against him because of it during the primaries, but are far more honest about it than are you...who is a liar. We recognize the evil of his behavior as well as the evil of yours and that which you celebrate. You lie about it. Because you're Dan Trump.<br /><br />It's not my fault that we were faced with such a terrible choice between two low character people. There was no way to pretend that the nation would not be calling one of them "POTUS" when it was all said and done. The only question was which one would it be. I acted on that only choice to prevent the greater of two evils. The evil you would prefer was such that her evil would have a direct negative impact on the nation in the same way Obama did, and likely make things even worse than he did. Voting for the lecher was the clear choice over the despot who protected the lecher to whom she was married and lied about it. <br /><br />What's more, the sad reality that Trump rose to this status is the result of leftist ideology that allowed cultural mores to decay as badly as it has thus far (culminating in the legitimization of abomination). Said another way, he succeeded politically because of people <i><b>LIKE YOU!!!</b></i> YOU are far more responsible for his current position in the political world than am I, or Glenn, or Craig, or Neil, or Stan or anyone on this side of the political and religious divide. People like us are just trying to deal with it. Withholding our votes from him and letting Clinton win is really all this is about for you. You don't give a flying rat's ass about his character, his behavior or his locker-room boasting. You lie about this, too. Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-66881175348990766522016-12-27T09:55:54.122-06:002016-12-27T09:55:54.122-06:00"Yeah, you're right. Trump saying that he...<i>"Yeah, you're right. Trump saying that he just grabs women by the pussy..."</i><br /><br />You're a liar. Trump talks out his ass, repeats things he shouldn't (like Cruz's father being complicit in Kennedy's murder), engages in hyperbole and exaggeration and says things that aren't true. But <i>YOU'RE</i> a liar of the first order. I just told you that I listened again to the video interview with Billy Bush and he did NOT say that he does indeed grab women by the crotch (though you obviously enjoy typing "pussy", you deviant). But you need to believe that he said he actually does grab women in that manner, because you need to believe that others are more immoral than you and those you celebrate, so you intentionally repeat that which you have been told is not true, which means you're a liar...just like Donald Trump, if not worse than him.<br /><br /><i>"Real men don't do this sort of thing, nor do they defend it."</i><br /><br />Then I'm glad I don't defend it, and instead have done just the opposite. But you're a liar by continually insisting that I defend his behavior, when I'm doing no more than correcting your lie about exactly what he said. You're a liar just like Donald Trump, but worse because he's just talking out his ass, and you're intentionally speaking falsehood...about not only Trump, but those of us who don't need to make shit up about his character like you apparently have a sick need to do. <br /><br /><i>"When you say that someone can engage in this sort of language and STILL be suited for the office of president, you are defending sexually predatory language and behavior."</i><br /><br />And again you lie. I've corrected you repeatedly on my actions and what motivated them, but you insist that I'm defending his low character. Because you're an inveterate liar. Hillary routinely engages in vile language and I suppose I should have voted for her instead? Or not vote at all and risk her ascendancy and all the harm that would follow? Here's some foul language for you...kiss my ass. <br /><br />And hey! I can easily find instances when you've engaged in typing foul language, so you're a hypocrite in that, too. Liar. <br /><br /><i>"And it is a hellish lie to say that I celebrate any perversion. That you confuse a loving marriage relationship as "perverted" is yet another sign that you have no idea of what is and isn't perverted, and why your opinion is worthless."</i><br /><br />The "hellish lie" is when you call abomination "loving". So you lie about that as well, which is routine for you. You would suggest that sinning in a loving way makes the sin worthy of God's blessing. That's a lie, and an abominable one at that, with which pro-homosexual Biblical scholars agree. So, there's no confusion on my part, as I don't pretend two perverts saying "I love you" to each other makes their sinful sexual behavior not sinful. Liar. I should start calling you Daniel Trump, you lie so outrageously! (or Donald Trabue...either way)<br /><br />continuing.... Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-83156305364810988442016-12-27T08:55:57.945-06:002016-12-27T08:55:57.945-06:00Since when is it sexual deviancy for a male to wan...Since when is it sexual deviancy for a male to want to look at females? THAT is the point.<br /><br />Point two is again, WE NEVER SANCTION HIS IMMORALITY, you jackass!<br /><br />If sexual immorality disqualified a man from being a president (although it should), then a huge number of past presidents should not have been presidents. Are you okay with John Kennedy? How about Franklin Roosevelt? Oh, wait -- How about Bill Clinton, sexual predator extraordinaire. You and your ilk are hypocrites of the highest order.<br /><br />In my book anyone promoting same-sex fake marriage is not qualified for president yet Obama got it sanctioned nationwide.<br /><br />You put an awful lot of stock in Al Mohler, the guy who ruins your theology in so many ways! Why do you listen to him on anything when you can't agree with his theology?!?!? Hypocrisy again. And Mohler in this case is only expressing his opinion, not biblical truth. So who cares.<br /><br />Again, the vote was NOT for Trump, it was for the Republican party. If Mohler thought it was okay to vote against Trump so Clinton would get in, that is his stupidity talking.<br /><br />And, no you fool, voting for Trump to get a Republican administration was NOT supporting Trump's immorality (not deviancy). Glenn E. Chatfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-53749654941482528152016-12-26T20:46:46.130-06:002016-12-26T20:46:46.130-06:00Al Mohler:
"When it comes to Donald Trump, e...Al Mohler:<br /><br /><i>"When it comes to Donald Trump, evangelicals are going to have to ask the huge question, 'Is it worth <b>destroying our moral credibility to support someone who is beneath the baseline level of human decency</b> for anyone who should deserve our vote?'"</i><br /><br />http://www.christianpost.com/news/al-mohler-evangelical-moral-credibility-voting-beneath-human-decency-donald-trump-170808/#rebgt5bglPtXyKPM.99<br /><br />Mohler is clearly wrong on many issues, in my opinion. He suffers from some of the same arrogance and delusion that is typical of so many conservative fundamentalist types. However, he is right on this point: You have destroyed your credibility.<br /><br />Take it up with him, I'll waste no more time today talking to a man who defends such deviancy (and yes, supporting him as the Republican president IS supporting him in his deviancy. His deviancy disqualifies him for any position of responsibility.).<br /><br />~DanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-5360193914520224292016-12-26T20:27:41.053-06:002016-12-26T20:27:41.053-06:00Glenn, clearly you don't understand what Trump...Glenn, clearly you don't understand what Trump said about his sexual assault. But set that aside for just a minute: He bragged about walking around in a GIRL's dressing room, viewing many teenaged girls who were half-dressed, bragged about doing so. He's a deviant.<br /><br />You do not recognize it, pointing out the deviancy in your own mind.<br /><br />You have no credibility, Glenn, until you begin to recognize that these behaviors Trump admits to makes him not suited for office. It should be a game-stopper, yet you still support him and defend his deviancy.<br /><br />Shame on you. I'm sure you don't even recognize your blindness to deviancy... the Bible tells us that those who engage in sinful thinking make their hearts hard to God's ways. I pray you open your eyes and take an honest look at the pervert you are defending and recognizing how, as Al Mohler has pointed out, you are destroying your credibility and witness.<br /><br />Good luck.<br /><br />~DanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-67332277142463372472016-12-26T19:07:58.066-06:002016-12-26T19:07:58.066-06:00Trabue,
You are being intentionally STUPID. Trum...Trabue,<br /><br />You are being intentionally STUPID. Trump never said he grabbed anyone -- he was being arrogant and saying he COULD grab someone and get away with it. He was bragging about how he was such a great person == and that was years, and years ago! You LEFTISTS hang on to the stupidest things while promoting the worst sexual behavior which violate biology and the human body. You have NO RIGHT to even speak of sexual immorality of any sort.<br /><br />Again and again we have said we have never defended any of his immoral actions; NOT ONE PERSON has ever defended his actions (the real actions, not the false accusations). Yet you continue to bear false witness claiming we have! <br /><br />Voting for Trump was not supporting him, rather it was protecting the nation from more of Demokrat obamanite policies which have ruined this nation. We voted for a Republican administration, not for Trump, but you are too stupid to understand that.<br /><br />And two people of the same sex cannot have a "loving" sexual relationship. God calls it an abomination, which means they are committing grave sin, which cannot include love because love seeks no harm to the other. Homosexual behavior is as perverted as it gets and is extremely harmful physically, medically, emotionally, psychologically and spiritually. And YOU are the master pervert, along with your perverted president, who supports such behavior while blaspheming God claiming He approves of it.<br /><br />You are the one with no credibility. You wouldn't know credibility if it bit you in the behind. (And if you want to cite Mohler, perhaps you should see what he teaches about same-sex fake marriage!Glenn E. Chatfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-62045074330234959092016-12-26T19:02:54.942-06:002016-12-26T19:02:54.942-06:00...and Marshall, with the perverted, deviant, unhe......and Marshall, with the perverted, deviant, unhealthy and immoral view you all have (being so twisted that you think a healthy, loving marriage between two loving adults is "perverse" and yet you give a pass and think that a man who stalks naked teenagers - AND BRAGS about it on radio! - and who sexually assaults women and brags about it to other men, saying he's entitled to do this... Normal moral adults say, "Hey, that behavior is beyond the pale! If I can't trust my teenaged daughter to visit the White House, then he is not suited for office. In fact, he should be arrested for what he has confessed to and bragged about")... this thinking is obviously awful to an increasing number of people. You all have driven young people away from your views with immoral and perverse views like this. You may be able to win today with the help of an aging, racist and perverse white and uneducated populace, but it won't last for long.<br /><br />Repent fellows. Open your eyes to the perversion you're actually passing on and recognize its evil nature and repent, turn from these deviant ways and TO the ways of Christ, the Lord you hope to follow.<br /><br />~DanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-29307455333931775662016-12-26T18:47:20.446-06:002016-12-26T18:47:20.446-06:00Yeah, you're right. Trump saying that he just ...Yeah, you're right. Trump saying that he just grabs women by the pussy, he doesn't ask them, he just kisses. He can't help himself. And he goes into the dressing room where half dressed/undressed teenagers are exposed to him... and he boasts about all this predatory, perverted behavior, sometimes on the radio! And you all defend this man.<br /><br />Real men don't do this sort of thing, nor do they defend it. Only perverts do this sort of behavior and defenders of perverts defend it.<br /><br />And yes, Marshall, you ARE defending it. When you say that someone can engage in this sort of language and STILL be suited for the office of president, you are defending sexually predatory language and behavior. Shame on you. For this reason, you have no credibility, defender of perverts. I mean, look at Glenn, he can't even admit that he's perverted!<br /><br />And it is a hellish lie to say that I celebrate any perversion. That you confuse a loving marriage relationship as "perverted" is yet another sign that you have no idea of what is and isn't perverted, and why your opinion is worthless.<br /><br />You two have no credibility. Ask Al Mohler, he'll tell you.<br /><br />~DanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-77405437209758404562016-12-26T17:52:48.515-06:002016-12-26T17:52:48.515-06:00Dan,
So you're just going to continue demonst...Dan,<br /><br />So you're just going to continue demonstrating your hypocrisy by suggesting we're defending Trump's immoral behaviors, while you celebrate actual perversion and sexual immorality every day? His character was the reason neither Glenn nor myself, nor Craig, Stand nor so many others, supported Trump's candidacy during the primaries, with some of those guys insisting they didn't vote for him in the presidential election. I have no trouble choosing the lesser of two evils, as I did in voting for him to help prevent the ascendancy of Clinton, as I believe we as a nation are better off with the lesser of two evils. Not all of my side believes as such, but that's up to them. <br /><br />What is hypocritical is to suggest that he's so bad due to his form of sexual immorality while I suspect you would not hold against another their homosexual lifestyle were a homosexual to run for president. I suspect you'd celebrate the possibility that we could actually have "the first homosexual president", as if that, too, isn't immoral. Because you are immoral. It is YOU who have no standing to denounce the sexual immorality of Trump when you so fervently celebrate sexual immorality all the time, even pretending that God would bless it. Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-71690569828431576172016-12-26T16:45:40.038-06:002016-12-26T16:45:40.038-06:00Trabue
You have no evidence of Trump being a pred...Trabue <br />You have no evidence of Trump being a predator. Thanks for false witness.<br /><br />Being a philanderer isn't a deviant -- it's just immoral. You need to understand the difference.Glenn E. Chatfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-3308776887734464572016-12-26T13:16:20.111-06:002016-12-26T13:16:20.111-06:00Wow.
You guys defend deviants because you don'...Wow.<br /><br />You guys defend deviants because you don't even know what a deviant/pervert is.<br /><br />Real men aren't serial sexual predators/philanderers. As I said, given your inability to recognize basic decency, you all have no moral standing to criticize anyone.<br /><br />First, remove the plank from your own eyes.<br /><br />DanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-38904060982346123702016-12-26T12:02:04.984-06:002016-12-26T12:02:04.984-06:00Trump is not sexual deviant. He is certainly orie...Trump is not sexual deviant. He is certainly oriented towards members of the opposite sex. Sexual deviants at those who deny biology and have sex with members of their own sex, or mutilate themselves to pretend they are members of the opposite sex. THAT is sexual deviancy. Of course there are other sexual deviations, but I've seen no evidence of any sort about Trump.Glenn E. Chatfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-37030019505446653992016-12-26T02:22:29.095-06:002016-12-26T02:22:29.095-06:00"Conservatives will usually affirm the observ...<i>"Conservatives will usually affirm the observable reality that people will commonly act in their own self-interests. Are you some bleeding heart liberal that assumes that these people will not do so?"</i><br /><br />Once again you demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of what conservatism is. To say that people will generally act in their own self-interest does not suggest they will fail to act for others, particularly when tasked to do so. Indeed, a conservative who would normally act on his own self-interest will routinely suspend those actions when called upon to serve his fellow man. Conservatives who have achieved success in serving their own self-interests commonly use that success to help others in a variety of ways, including the political, serving not as a means to create wealth, like the Obamas and Clintons, but because they already have wealth enough to satisfy their own self-interests and can then focus on tasks at hand without regard to self-interest. <br /><br />I think you well know this, but are too dishonest to act as though you do.<br /><br />And again, I have made no assumptions about how any of Trump's cabinet will act once he is sworn in and they have been positioned in their respective offices. YOU obviously have because you lack grace and true Christian regard for your fellow man. In the meantime, Trump welcomed disordered people like Bruce Jenner into the restrooms of his hotels. And the following gives a bit of insight into one of this wealthy appointees that you lack the grace to assume:<br /><br />http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2016/12/23/learned-exxon-ceo-rex-tillerson-spending-week-jury-duty<br /><br />So at least one of them has demonstrated the ability and willingness to act beyond his own self-interest. <br /><br /><i>"Again, I'm sorry if you are not understanding"</i><br /><br />Well, you are most definitely sorry, but I understand fully that you pervert and support perversion. The word applies better to you than to Trump. Here, you blatantly pervert what I'm doing, either out of dishonesty or due to rank stupidity (at this point it doesn't matter which, and I'm fine with either). You need to believe that I support a guy I opposed in the primaries and for whom I voted only to impede a far worse individual from winning the election. And as he has succeeded in winning, I simply hope that he will do most of that which he promised to do. I have a wait-and-see attitude as I always do in these cases, though I feel confident that things will improve in some areas. But unlike you lefties, we on the right are not shy in jumping on even those we DO support personally when they fail to be what they say they are. We do not support our people when they act like yours do as a matter of routine.<br /><br />And as long as people like me don't go insane and become leftists and Democrats, we absolutely have the right to be taken seriously about being concerned with moral behavior, particularly when we acknowledge the immoral aspect of Trump's character. We don't pretend it doesn't exist or is irrelevant as you lefties routinely do with your people. <br /><br />So.. who got your vote for president?<br /><br /> Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-6937903193081890472016-12-25T17:04:47.184-06:002016-12-25T17:04:47.184-06:00If that doesn't sound like basic leftist strat...<i> If that doesn't sound like basic leftist strategy and tactics, I don't know what does! We here see that those words apply well to most every position taken by Dan Trabue.</i><br /><br />Again, I'm sorry if you are not understanding, but you all are defending a self-admitted sexual deviant, a liar and a con man. Which is your right. But one consequence of your actions is that, in this case, you no longer have a right to be taken seriously as being concerned about moral behavior. Sorry. The Right is now the party who is fine with sexual deviants and abusers and liars. That's on you.<br /><br />Ask Al Mohler, he'll tell you that this is the natural consequence of your actions.<br /><br />~DanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-45655564820830518802016-12-25T17:01:11.050-06:002016-12-25T17:01:11.050-06:00None whatsoever. Nor do I have any legitimate reas...<i>None whatsoever. Nor do I have any legitimate reason to believe they will or won't. And that's the point. Neither do you.</i><br /><br />Conservatives will usually affirm the observable reality that people will commonly act in their own self-interests. Are you some bleeding heart liberal that assumes that these people will not do so?<br /><br />If so, based on what? Blind hope? Faith in the pervert and liar, Trump?<br /><br />There's a difference between grace and naivete.<br /><br />~DanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-60877421435120204212016-12-25T16:13:43.112-06:002016-12-25T16:13:43.112-06:00"You do know that Obama is leaving office wit...<i>"You do know that Obama is leaving office with the highest approval ratings of any president since Bill Clinton? Higher than Reagan?"</i><br /><br />Only a dishonest person would suggest approval ratings are a real reflection of the entirety of American sentiment...greater than the rejection of the incumbent's party at election time. And not only did Obama twice win the presidency on the strength of racial considerations (overwhelming black support---simply because he is half-black), but his approval numbers are a result of the same racial consideration. Add that to the fact that Dems approve of anything a Dem does, regardless of how beneficial or not, approval numbers, even for Republicans, are a worthless barometer.<br /><br /><i>"He has had the most scandal-free and decent administration in either of our lifetimes."</i><br /><br />While as the article itself says, these might not all constitute "scandal" in the classical sense of the word, I would posit that the same is true for that which Dan would call a scandal for center-right presidents. NOTE: The following is only that which occurred to about 2013:<br /><br />http://www.naturalnews.com/041056_Obama_scandals_Benghazi_Fast_and_Furious.html<br /><br /><i>"He is a good (flawed, but good) man who has done a good job as president, and better than any other recent administration, especially given the vile and falsehood-based opposition to him from day one by an obstructionist, do-nothing Congress."</i><br /><br />Nonsense. "Good" man? That's your opinion and subjectivity is hardly evidence of anything but that you're a hack. But if you think that he's done a good job as president, you'll need some proof. I still intend to attack feo's list of "achievements" at some point, but suffice to say that more people on food stamps, more people who no longer even try to find a job, more people having to work multiple jobs, more violence, more racial discord, just to name a few things, indicates a job well done, then you have proven yourself either a clinical idiot or one who has just lied yet again. <br /><br />That's all for now. More to come later. <br /><br />Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-84483308304196961662016-12-25T15:34:49.898-06:002016-12-25T15:34:49.898-06:00NOTE: in the previous comment, somehow I did not g...NOTE: in the previous comment, somehow I did not get the links grouped together like I had meant to do so, and thus some of the sources showing Dan knows nothing are what are at the bottom. Not that it matters, since Dan doesn't actually read links other people post.<br /><br />Anyway, to continue...<br /><br /><i>"You simply have no credible grounds to speak out against any perceived immorality until such point as you all collectively seriously repent for the harm you've done."</i><br /><br />When you apologize for your complicity in foisting Obama and the harm he brought upon America, then you might have grounds of your own for making such a pathetic demand. What's more, the extent of harm that Trump might bring about is as yet unknown at this point, since he hasn't be sworn in. For all his character flaws, he might be the best president ever. Time will tell and despite my own trepidation, I'm willing to wait and see. Too bad you haven't the grace to do so as well.<br /><br /><i>"Did you do this with Obama?"</i><br /><br />Of course. The difference is that Obama had, for lack of a better more accurate term, a "track record" that would suggest a likely direction. That was enough to make justified assumptions that trouble was on the way. Nonetheless, the hope was that he would actually do something good, such as at least narrowing the racial divide. He expanded it nicely, so he pretty much failed in just the manner we who actually vetted him predicted he would in every area. <br /><br />What you fail to accept is that leftist policy has a long history of failure. To expect success in employing that which has never succeeded, though, still does not mean that we can't hope a bozo will do something right. What choice do we have but to hope? Your bozo failed miserably. Ours at least proposes that which has a history of success. Thus the hope is far less desperate and far more justified. If you were honest, you'd realize this.<br /><br /><i>"So, shall I assume you have nothing but blind faith in Father Trump that these 1%-er, elitist types will act in our best interests? And that faith is in the faith of a demonstrated liar who is a sexual pervert?"</i><br /><br />How about not assuming in the first place, especially with regard to that which doesn't reflect anything we've ever said or suggested? That would be a good start on your path toward honesty and grace. <br /><br />We have no faith in anyone at this point. We simply choose to let the guy take office and see what happens. We realize the risk of a Trump presidency, and have never stated that he is the best we could have put in the big chair. We realize only that he was the better choice between the only candidates with any chance to actually get that 270 electoral votes. Why not embrace enough grace and honesty to acknowledge this that we have continually maintained? <br /><br /><b>By the way, Dan....for whom did you vote? I admitted my vote cast for Trump. I accept all that goes with that. I want to know who you supported in the election before you continue your fact free demonizing.</b> <br /><br />more coming....<br />Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-19585586823916510022016-12-25T15:14:25.477-06:002016-12-25T15:14:25.477-06:00"What evidence do you have that, whether or n...<i>"What evidence do you have that, whether or not they understand the average American...and will act in their interests?"</i><br /><br />None whatsoever. Nor do I have any legitimate reason to believe they will or won't. And that's the point. Neither do you. But you, in your graceless manner, choose to suppose that these successful people are selfish and care only for other rich people, simply because they are successful and wealthy...an unChristian speculation based on your own contempt, distrust and envy of them.<br /><br /><i>"(and I'm guessing many of these people started wealthy, just because that's the norm)"</i><br /><br />Not the norm at all, apparently, though it serves your covetous nature to believe so:<br /><br />http://www.businessnewsdaily.com/2871-how-most-millionaires-got-rich.html<br /><br /><i>"And sorry, Glenn, but your side doesn't get to talk out against "perversion," even in the imagined sense you use here."</i><br /><br />Of course we do. But let's first look at what "perversion" is:<br /><br /><i>1. The alteration of something from it's original course, meaning, or state to a distortion or corruption of what was first intended.</i> ...such as the perversion of the definition of "marriage" or the perversion of human sexual morality by the LGBT activists and their enablers, such as Dan Trabue.<br /><br /><i>synonyms--distortion, misrepresentation, misconstruction, twisting, corruption, subversion, misuse, misapplication, debasement "a twisted perversion of the truth"</i><br /><br />Wow! If that doesn't sound like basic leftist strategy and tactics, I don't know what does! We here see that those words apply well to most every position taken by Dan Trabue.<br /><br /><i>2. sexual behavior or desire that is considered abnormal or unacceptable.</i><br /><br />Here, we see that only half of the above can be applied to Trump, as for most conservatives and conservative Christians (and those of other faiths), Donald's sexual history is largely, unacceptable. But desire of men for women isn't abnormal, even to the degree of the most lecherous. So the tag "perversion" doesn't quite fit unless a lefty like Dan perverts the meaning...which is lying. Dan's percentage of false utterances continues to rise above the 90% level he attributes to Trump.<br /><br /><i>"Your side has embraced the biggest presidential pervert in all of US history. You've given up the high moral ground when you embraced the pussy grabbing sexual assailant and probable child rapist."</i><br /><br />No. That was YOUR side. At this point, you are basing all on speculation compelled by high school bragging from 11 years ago. The guy likes hot women! OH! THE! HORROR! I'm so ashamed that I married one myself!<br /><br />What's more, the vast majority of those who voted for Trump in the presidential election, never "embraced" him at all (so you're percentage of lies continues to rise), but voted for him to deny a far worse scumbag from sitting in the big chair. This has been explained to you ad nauseum, and you desperately continue to lie about it. What's more, you continue to insist that he admitted to grabbing women by the crotch, when honest people know that in that interview with Bush, he merely claimed that he <i>could</i> grab women that way and get away with it due to the manner in which women react to rich dudes like him. He saw that as a plus, sure, but he didn't actually say in that interview that he actually does that. And as I just watched it yet again to confirm what I've said, I can only conclude that either you never watched it yourself, or that you're content with lying yet again.<br /><br />continuing....<br /><br />https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/insights/joshua-rauh-what-forbes-400-list-says-about-american-wealth<br /><br />http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/most-wealthy-individuals-earned-not-inherited-their-wealth/Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-77043748263612102732016-12-25T08:45:28.026-06:002016-12-25T08:45:28.026-06:00Trabue, again makes claims as to what my thinking ...Trabue, again makes claims as to what my thinking is -- he must be omniscient.<br /><br />Trabue, you've never understood context. Your idea about the passages about wealth doesn't align with commentaries by scholars (other than the LEFTIST type). But go ahead and think you have it right, the same way you think you have it right about homosexuality and abortion, etc. <br /><br />You aren't saved at all, because the Christ and God you worship are those of your own making, just like members of cults. A fake, made-up Jesus cannot save you.<br /><br />By the way, we KNEW what Obamanation's political stance was going to be, since he wrote a book about his beliefs, he attended a fake church for 20 years which was racist, anti-Semitic, and socialist. And he was a worthless senator. So there was no "wait and see" with him.Glenn E. Chatfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-15799757576165414472016-12-25T00:32:40.193-06:002016-12-25T00:32:40.193-06:00Marshall, Oct, 2008, just before Obama was elected...Marshall, Oct, 2008, just before Obama was elected...<br /><br /><i>And we've gotten more confirmation, in the form of a 2001 radio interview, that the Obamanable one views the Constitution as most view used toilet paper. </i><br /><br />Obummer. Barry. Barely. Comparisons of Obama's election to anal rape. <br /><br />Yeah, that was grace. That was giving him a chance and taking a wait and see approach.<br /><br />Dan Trabuehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14303597141397042669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-14436213886779420242016-12-24T22:24:29.839-06:002016-12-24T22:24:29.839-06:00"It's what the text says" -- but he ...<i> "It's what the text says" -- but he never understands context. NEVER.</i><br /><br />Only you understand the text and context and disagreeing with Glenn is disagreeing with God... is that what you're saying?<br /><br />If so, do you see the bald, diabolic arrogance in such a claim?<br /><br />Glenn, you're free to hold your own opinion. I think that clearly you are mistaken. You all are reading into the text something that isn't there in the text or the context (for instance, what in the context says that James meant only the greedy in his words? Or Mary, in her Magnificat? It's just not there. It's something you're making up out of swamp gas). But feel free to do that if it comforts you.<br /><br />As to my salvation, thankfully, I'm not saved by your grace or I certainly would be doomed. But my salvation rests in God and God's grace, not Glenn. Embrace a bit of that grace by which you are saved, Glenn.<br /><br />Marshall...<br /><br /><i>I tend to run with a "let's wait and see" posture.</i><br /><br />Did you do this with Obama? I think not. It appears your "grace" only extends to self-described sexual perverts, liars, con men and sexual abusers, and then only when they tell you they're conservative (whether they are or not).<br /><br />That isn't grace, Marshall. It's hypocrisy, or at least seems like it on the face of it. Embrace actual grace, brother.<br /><br />Again, Merry Christmas, may the Peace of Christ fall upon you.<br /><br />~DanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-43228347008642029162016-12-24T15:54:01.153-06:002016-12-24T15:54:01.153-06:00Good old Trabue. "It's what the text say...Good old Trabue. "It's what the text says" -- but he never understands context. NEVER.<br /><br />Wealth isn't a trap, not at all. Only greed associated with wealth is bad. Again, why did God make Solomon so wealthy if wealth was considered a trap and bad in any way?<br /><br />You don't know the real Christ, Trabue, as has been proven over and over and over again.<br /><br />Glenn E. Chatfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-46227762938933126552016-12-24T14:46:08.309-06:002016-12-24T14:46:08.309-06:00Both of you: it's literally what the text says...Both of you: it's literally what the text says. But,you two just don't see it. <br /><br />I'd suggest that's part of why wealth is a trap: it blinds you, makes you simply unaware of the trap you're in.<br /><br />May Christ's actual blessings fall on you, gentlemen. Peace on earth and in your hearts, healing for your hearts.<br /><br />In Christ, merry Christmas.<br /><br />DanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com