tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post2937487088700660556..comments2024-03-28T02:33:58.130-05:00Comments on Marshal Art's: But Hey! What Do We Know?Marshal Arthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-11310032807990086702013-05-23T23:27:04.827-05:002013-05-23T23:27:04.827-05:00Apparently you don't know how to engage in dis...Apparently you don't know how to engage in discussion. Irrelevant links do not help your position.Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-12377073493199908862013-05-23T07:08:23.349-05:002013-05-23T07:08:23.349-05:00Apparently D-Day means nothing to you.Apparently D-Day means nothing to you.Feodorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216659885831979653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-53922250855475481752013-05-22T23:33:09.609-05:002013-05-22T23:33:09.609-05:00I did read it. I read all the links you foolish l...I did read it. I read all the links you foolish lefties post as if you've got some real evidence to support your crap. There's nothing in this link that supports your position, especially given the fact that the men were supposedly told of the sexual "opportunities" in liberating France. So the question would then be, how many of those who invaded France were battled-scarred psychopaths who could no longer control their urges, as opposed to recruits who were indulging in what they were told were easy pickings?<br /><br />What's more, the article had absolutely nothing to do with the number of assaults reported by both men and women victims <i>within</i> the military. But as I said, it does support my premise against the idiocy of mixing young men with women as if there couldn't possibly be any downsides. <br /><br />My brain is not turned off, false priest. It can recognize your desperation in trying to legitimize a bad idea. Some day you'll have to turn on what passes for your brain.Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-13661454101092697492013-05-22T22:09:26.848-05:002013-05-22T22:09:26.848-05:00I certainly understand why you wouldn't want t...I certainly understand why you wouldn't want to read it. And I'll further understand your tried and true strategy of mindless denial if you ever do read it. After all, it's just yet more clarity that opening up military service to women has nothing to do with skyrocketing rates of sexual assault. Rather, male aggression, trauma and unending months of stress, and a license for immorality from immediate superiors all spur criminality from otherwise normal soldiers.<br /><br />Not to mention sacrificing for Bush's fake war.<br /><br />But you go ahead, Marshdll, you keep your brain turned off like a dipshit.<br /><br />The light is carried by enough of us to overcome.Feodorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216659885831979653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-53092689151122970222013-05-22T20:29:28.864-05:002013-05-22T20:29:28.864-05:00"Uh oh. Unanticipated additional evidence.&qu...<i>"Uh oh. Unanticipated additional evidence."</i><br /><br />Really???!! WHERE!!!?? <br /><br />Oh. Your NYT link? That constitutes evidence for what, exactly? That mixing hoards of young men with women isn't exactly a great idea? I didn't need additional evidence to support my premise, but thanks anyway. You're a pip.Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-10829563347647161932013-05-22T16:07:37.649-05:002013-05-22T16:07:37.649-05:00Uh oh. Unanticipated additional evidence.
http://...Uh oh. Unanticipated additional evidence.<br /><br />http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/21/books/rape-by-american-soldiers-in-world-war-ii-france.html?ref=books&_r=0Feodorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216659885831979653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-36077910528569829532013-05-21T06:46:33.417-05:002013-05-21T06:46:33.417-05:00You're saying I'm stumped does not make it...You're saying I'm stumped does not make it so. It does, however point to desperation on YOUR part. You cannot use your "explanation" to resolve the issue of assaults in academies, for example, and instead simply ignore it. As if that wasn't enough, nothing you've offered suggests the point of the post is in error. These types of problems were predicted. The predictions, incredible logical and based on human nature, went unheeded. The results are the high number of assaults. <br /><br />What you so often fail to understand, given that your intention is to promote what you laughingly believe is superior intellect, is that straying from the topic does not render the point of the topic erroneous. It only proves an incredible inability to focus.Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-34730005689609712692013-05-21T05:45:45.594-05:002013-05-21T05:45:45.594-05:00Is that your plan, Marshall, when stumped just rep...Is that your plan, Marshall, when stumped just repeat yourself?<br /><br />"I'd love to read the actual Pentagon report, but I've been unable to access it."<br /><br />Keep looking. I'm sure you will find in the lead author's middle initial confirmation of your beliefs.Feodorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216659885831979653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-30180737058711738692013-05-19T00:48:53.951-05:002013-05-19T00:48:53.951-05:00You've provided nothing but opinion. I'd ...You've provided nothing but opinion. I'd love to read the actual Pentagon report, but I've been unable to access it. And once again, if strain of military service in war zones is the cause, how does that have anything to do with assaults in military academies, boot camp training and ships at sea where direct contact with the enemy is not at the level of combat zones? What's more, at least two of your offerings speak to an ongoing culture into which mixing genders was <i>predictably</i> a very bad idea (the point of this post). <br /><br />So try to find some REAL evidence and not just superficial suggestions as to why sexual assaults take place. All you've done is make my point for me. Then, try providing a truly educated explanation for why sexual assaults might NOT increase if women were kept separate from men. <br /><br />I could be flipping burgers for a living and still out<i>smart</i> you. Your education has done little to make you wise or perceptive. Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-38846110810074456382013-05-18T22:27:13.538-05:002013-05-18T22:27:13.538-05:00It's not a new thing that you take your by-the...It's not a new thing that you take your by-the-seat-of-your-uneducated-pants opinions as "evidence" and then ask for more details from your betters.<br /><br />You're a deceiver at heart.<br /><br />That you consider "suicide and aggressive/ depressive behaviors" as "the same condition" is indeed evidence of your jejune intellectual abilities. And yet you think that you think deeply. You fool yourself at the least.<br /><br />You're a deceiver at heart.<br />__________________________<br /><br />"Like the military’s ongoing challenge of suicide in the ranks, there is no single fix.... Nothing excuses sexual abuse, of course, but several things may help to explain it, U.S. military officers and veterans suggest:<br /><br />– After a decade of combat, and the latest round of austerity imposed by sequester-mandated budget cuts, the troops are frayed. Nerves are on edge, drinking is exacerbating the problem, and peacetime cushions are shot."<br /><br />http://nation.time.com/2013/05/17/the-roots-of-sexual-abuse-in-the-military/#ixzz2Thk7wYPK<br />___________________<br /><br />"Today, Joint Chiefs Chairman Dempsey said that a decade of war may have undermined accountability on sexual assault."<br /><br />http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/military/jan-june13/sexualassaults_05-17.html<br />___________________<br /><br />USA TODAY interviewed lawmakers, social scientists and people who have worked on the sexual assault issue inside the military to determine why the Pentagon hasn't been able to stem this predatory tide. All pointed to two factors — one a new plague, the other as old as the military itself — standing in the way:<br /><br />• A military culture more coarse toward women in the ranks, the result of stress from a decade of war and the status of women as second-class warriors barred from combat roles. Male recruits are drawn from a society where violence and objectification of women are staple elements of films and video games.<br /><br />• A military justice system with origins dating to the Revolutionary War that gives commanders of accused troops ultimate power over legal proceedings.<br /><br />Deep within the massive, two-volume Pentagon study is evidence that a male-dominated culture fosters sexual abuse.<br /><br />[Notice, Marshall, how experts know that the answer is the exact opposite to your yahoo disenfranchisement of women. You perpetuate the problem.]<br /><br />Those who study the military say the coarsening of attitudes and the rise in sexual assaults should come as no surprise. David Segal, a military sociologist at the University of Maryland, says America's volunteer force has been under enormous strain after fighting two wars and enduring back-to-back deployments that lead to pathologies ranging from suicide to alcohol abuse and mental illness.<br /><br />http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2013/05/15/why-the-military-hasnt-stopped-sexual-abuse-/2162399/<br />_______________________<br /><br />I found these in just the last ten minutes. Let this be a lesson to you that the truly educated can make very well informed hypotheses prior to evidence.<br /><br />You, however, should just keep driving your truck and arriving on time. It's your only salvation, truly.Feodorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216659885831979653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-6904967373563409902013-05-18T19:43:43.808-05:002013-05-18T19:43:43.808-05:00"This is the long running joke coursing throu...<i>"This is the long running joke coursing through every post on this blog."</i><br /><br />What would make it a joke would be if someone like you actually provided some substantive rebuttal to points made. You haven't. You can't, because you are not capable. You might have a chance if you weren't so concerned with trying to sound more intelligent than others who post here. You're not. Not even close.<br /><br />As to what you think are obvious causes, you offer no more than hunches you feel are necessary to deflect the point of this post. You present nothing in the way for serious evidence to support your weak hypothesis. If war alone was the reason for increases in sexual assaults, you'd have a hard time explaining those increases in assaults occurring in military academies and amongst those not yet deployed to battle zones. In short, you're making shit up. <br /><br />You might have come up more intellectual had you not listed suicide and aggressive/depressive behaviors separately, when in fact they are of the same condition, with suicide being a manifestation of depression, and not a "condition" itself.<br /><br />Your solution? Pretending that mixing the genders and tolerance of homosexuality has no negative effect on military discipline and unit cohesion. <br /><br />You're an idiot and a false priest all in one.Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-36023613202065443062013-05-18T15:24:10.611-05:002013-05-18T15:24:10.611-05:00"It's predicted behavior by those who thi..."It's predicted behavior by those who think more deeply..."<br /><br />This is the long running joke coursing through every post on this blog.<br /><br />For instance: if you were to show any sort of moderate thinking, you would have recognized that along many domains of destructive behavior there is a sharp increase among the military. <br /><br />It only takes a moment to realize the founding causes among the military of: 1) suicides (to show you how relevant the phenomenon is, simpleton), 2) sexual assault along with other criminal acts, 3) and a slew of mental illnesses resulting in aggressive or depressive symptoms.<br /><br />Let's try more than a decade of perpetual war. (What's the matter, Marshall, you forget we've been at war?) A decade in which there is a ten-fold survival rate among the severely wounded - survival but not thriving. A decade which turned in 2008 into a jobless prospect outside the military and a bad economy for an ever growing number of thousands upon thousands of serving soldiers and veterans.<br /><br />So, OBVIOUSLY, to the moderately reflective person, there unavoidably would be a sharp increase in alcoholism, depression, aggressive patterns from the traumatized and the long-stressed. Shame, pain, so often for men turns into aggressive behavior that crosses so many lines, sexual assault being just one.<br /><br />But no, you can't put two and two together; you start counting and you get lost in ghost trees.<br /><br />Why have sexual assaults been on the rise in the military? Same reason that suicides have been on the rise. Same reason alcoholism has been on the rise. Same reason that depression, aggression, disorders of every description have been on the rise.<br /><br />And your solution? Take freedom away from part of the population.<br /><br />You're a nanny and a ninny all in one.<br /><br /><br />Feodorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216659885831979653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-7037059369892853622013-05-18T13:41:43.985-05:002013-05-18T13:41:43.985-05:00"What other cause could there be, Marshall, f...<i>"What other cause could there be, Marshall, for the dramatic rise in suicides over the past few years..."</i><br /><br />The question is irrelevant to the topic at hand, and an unwarranted and dishonest attack in suggesting that I would promote the mixing of the sexes as having anything to do with vets killing themselves. If you wish to discuss suicides in the military, do so at your own blog.Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-15573259355434130992013-05-18T10:49:03.181-05:002013-05-18T10:49:03.181-05:00Andrew,
I've heard that in Britain, similar i...Andrew,<br /><br />I've heard that in Britain, similar incidents aren't uncommon due the fact that the criminal element has little fear of lethal responses to their criminal acts. It's predicted behavior by those who think more deeply (not that deep thought is truly required in this case, either) than others about human nature.Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-29832951921221923192013-05-18T10:45:45.982-05:002013-05-18T10:45:45.982-05:00Dan,
Obviously, men and women work together all t...Dan,<br /><br />Obviously, men and women work together all the time. However, there is a far different and unique dynamic in the military. They work in closer quarters, often for months at a time. Pregnancies are far more common now in the Navy as women are on ships at sea in greater numbers than ever before. There was a time when they weren't on ships at all, and strangely, there were no pregnancies reported by sailors. <br /><br />The point, once again, that I was making was that this consequence was foreseen and dismissed by people like yourself. It was a bad idea then and remains so because it ignores certain realities regarding human nature. And don't forget, this story reports that the incidents of unwanted sexual contact has <i>gone up</i>. This means it was already an issue and now its worse. <br /><br />I would point out that the story does not speak much about who is perpetrating these acts. Your responses seem to indicate you are thinking only of male perpetrators. I don't know if men are exclusively at fault. But note that men are victims as well. Who would you suppose is responsible for men being victimized in this manner? Women are in more positions of authority and cannot be ruled out as perpetrators. And who else might victimize a man in this manner? Any guesses or speculations?<br /><br />I would also point out your own post regarding proselytizing in the military. Is it possible, do you think, that without a more constant influence of religious teaching that these incidents might increase?<br /><br />Once again, as this type of behavior was easily foreseen by people unaffected by politically correct claptrap, reports such as this are not surprising. And the military has been negatively impacted in just the manner expected. They're policies that should never have been put in place and I don't doubt that things will get worse before anyone musters the courage to do the right thing and reverse them.<br /><br />Another case of treating different as identical for a misbegotten idea of "fairness" and "justice".Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-76094827787172908772013-05-18T10:39:23.214-05:002013-05-18T10:39:23.214-05:00What other cause could there be, Marshall, for the...What other cause could there be, Marshall, for the dramatic rise in suicides over the past few years - just as more women are serving and serving on the front lines?Feodorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216659885831979653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-26896855559961417952013-05-18T10:28:55.655-05:002013-05-18T10:28:55.655-05:00"Because that's what it sounds like you&#...<i>"Because that's what it sounds like you're saying."</i><br /><br />Another example of dishonesty from the false priest. Well done, liar.Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-24956868187977132322013-05-17T19:47:03.762-05:002013-05-17T19:47:03.762-05:00Suicides are also way up. Because women are servin...Suicides are also way up. Because women are serving in the military, Marshall says.Feodorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216659885831979653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-2498728962587330752013-05-17T13:46:32.937-05:002013-05-17T13:46:32.937-05:00The point is, Marshall, that you're saying we ...The point is, Marshall, that you're saying we shouldn't "mix" the sexes because there is SOME good percentage of men who will attack women. But I don't think you're saying that, in general, we shouldn't "mix" the sexes, only in the military.<br /><br />Why would you single out the military unless you thought they were more likely to be rapists?<br /><br />Or is it the case that you don't think men and women should intermingle in ANY setting?Dan Trabuehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14303597141397042669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-23878734746960827582013-05-17T06:57:47.457-05:002013-05-17T06:57:47.457-05:00There are many kinds of perverts, Daniel. You cel...There are many kinds of perverts, Daniel. You celebrate some of them routinely. But putting that aside,<br /><br /><i>"Are you seriously suggesting that your opinion of men in the US Armed Forces is that they are so out of control that they can't prevent themselves from attacking and raping women?"</i><br /><br />I'm seriously suggesting the objections to mixing the sexes were spot on and these reports prove it. Not surprised that you would take my comments as an indictment of all military personnel. <i>Because that's what it sounds like you're saying,</i> which is strange given the post includes the numbers. 26,000 people out of 1.4 million. Considering of that numbers, some may have been victimized by the same person, that drops the number of offenders below that 26K mark. But is there an acceptable number? I don't think so, but it would most certainly be much lower were the policy not changed so that opportunity would be increased. <br /><br />One could also easily imagine that the number could certainly be higher if those who resist their urges didn't, or if those who fantasize acted on the fantasies. The main point is that mixing the sexes was a stupid idea and these results were predicted by rational minds not corrupted by leftist notions of political correctness. Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-40687309147357202492013-05-16T12:24:50.828-05:002013-05-16T12:24:50.828-05:00?
Are you seriously suggesting that your opinion ...?<br /><br />Are you seriously suggesting that your opinion of men in the US Armed Forces is that they are so out of control that they can't prevent themselves from attacking and raping women?<br /><br />??<br /><br />Is your regard for these young men truly that low? <br /><br />Because that's what it sounds like you're saying.<br /><br />"If you put men around women, they won't be able to stop themselves from attacking and raping those women..."<br /><br />Myself, I believe that these young men are entirely capable of being, you know, basically moral people and the armed services are capable of finding the deviants and stopping them/not accepting them in the first place. Because such behavior has no place in the civilized world, INCLUDING the army.<br /><br />You know, my son goes to church with MANY young women and he has never once had cause to lose control and rape them.<br /><br />Maybe you need to meet a better caliber of men (ie, real, decent men, not perverts).Dan Trabuehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14303597141397042669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-8620954777007686182013-05-16T08:14:02.195-05:002013-05-16T08:14:02.195-05:00I too heard that increased gun ownership coincides...I too heard that increased gun ownership coincides with decreased crime, at least home ownership crime. The conclusion is, if would be intruders think a house could be defended, they are less likely to try invading it. I can see why people are concerned about the availability of firearms, but I can see why people of good character want to own them, too. Even in our quiet street, we've had one attempted break in - while we were home!Andrew Clarkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14685970347404504083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-41096959632426760402013-05-16T08:11:13.075-05:002013-05-16T08:11:13.075-05:00Interested to read your comment on sexual harassme...Interested to read your comment on sexual harassment in the military; and I agree, political correctness is NOT the same as wise governance and decision making. When will they learn.Andrew Clarkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14685970347404504083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-54896799118044363642013-05-13T06:34:05.442-05:002013-05-13T06:34:05.442-05:00More like, Bush-haters like yourself need to start...More like, Bush-haters like yourself need to start speaking truthfully. I won't hold my breath.Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-42451749435931470972013-05-13T05:18:30.758-05:002013-05-13T05:18:30.758-05:00Oh, right, I forgot how the "dear leader"...Oh, right, I forgot how the "dear leader" needs to be protected.<br /><br />You've got a little North Korea here to defend.Feodorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216659885831979653noreply@blogger.com