tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post2047818723371713949..comments2024-03-28T19:11:42.225-05:00Comments on Marshal Art's: It’s A Wonderment!Marshal Arthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-66851741326509559692008-06-04T19:32:00.000-05:002008-06-04T19:32:00.000-05:00Well, Geoffrey, it's a lie to say they are lies. ...Well, Geoffrey, it's a lie to say they are lies. More precisely, it's heavy handed to use the term, especially when considering that the article's author was not making the claims. What his point was, as I've explained, is how the left has responded to the claims, true or not. The left doesn't want to even talk about such things.<BR/><BR/>Now if we have to go over each of the things you've mentioned in your last, you are purposely deflecting the legitimate concerns. Frankly, I can't comment on what Islam teaches regarding apostasy, except to say that they take it a bit more seriously than does Christianity. It is true that they believe us all to be Muslim from birth, though many of us aren't yet aware. Barry was born of a Muslim man, making his "Muslim-ness" more of an issue for radicals, the people with whom the concerned opponents are, uh, concerned. It is the radicals that need to be considered because they are the ones making the noise. It would be folly to believe that such should be dismissed or not taken into account when considering a guy like Obama for prez, particularly when he thinks he's got the stuff to make them all play nice. <BR/><BR/>Next, to play semantics with the fact that he might not have been a student in a madrassa, but instead was a student of a school that taught Islam also ignores how this info plays out for the radicals he thinks he can persuade. <BR/><BR/>And finally, to call what Barry sat for "Christianity" is to further widen, if not eliminate, the parameters for describing just what Christianity is. <BR/><BR/>But nonetheless, the challenge was to discuss an article about Obama. This wasn't about Obama.Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-55636735335900103042008-06-04T16:41:00.000-05:002008-06-04T16:41:00.000-05:00There's nothing "partisan" about stating that some...There's nothing "partisan" about stating that something is not factually accurate. There's nothing "partisan" about stating that someone falls in to a logical fallacy. There is nothing "partisan" about stating that a writer uses poor grammar.<BR/><BR/>Why should I "prove" anything when the leg-work has been done? It is simply a fact that Barack Obama is a Christian, and has never "been" a Muslim. It is simply a fact that, even had he been a Muslim, there is no principle of Islamic law that calls for the execution of apostates (some fundamentalist Islamic states, like Saudi Arabia, have that law on the books, but it isn't a part of Islamic law). It is simply a fact that, as a child, Barack Obama attended a school in the world's largest Islamic country, which is a far different thing from attending a private school funded by Islamic militants in Pakistan, the so-called "madrasas". These are facts. Using their opposite as the basis for an argument invalidates that argument from the get-go. Why should I feel beholden to consider an argument based on lies?Geoffrey Kruse-Saffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242660591954094499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-59913233072935965882008-05-31T17:34:00.000-05:002008-05-31T17:34:00.000-05:00Yet, Geoffrey, you've made no case to support your...Yet, Geoffrey, you've made no case to support your blatantly partisan opinion. I've shown how you missed the point of the article you've selected to present, that is, how it wasn't about Obama at all. Are you willing to at least acknowledge <I>that</I> error? I've also pointed out how your charge of baseless accusations within the article were also supported. With which points are you having trouble?Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-17954894794698181802008-05-31T14:20:00.000-05:002008-05-31T14:20:00.000-05:00It wasn't a lack of understanding. It was a refus...It wasn't a lack of understanding. It was a refusal to regard an "argument" as serious because it is based upon demonstrably false premises, and "argues" a "position" that is false. I found other articles in that swamp of hubris that ludicrously calls itself <I>American Thinker</I> to be almost humorously bad, full of logical fallacies, factual errors, and bad grammar. It's a parody of serious right-wing writing, really. It's a humor site, like Sadly, No! for right-wingers, right? If these folks actually believe they are serious "thinkers" it's no wonder the right is currently bereft of new ideas.Geoffrey Kruse-Saffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242660591954094499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-71231516045492959562008-05-28T08:17:00.000-05:002008-05-28T08:17:00.000-05:00"Long Riders". Excellent movie. I, too, enjoyed ..."Long Riders". Excellent movie. I, too, enjoyed the bros as bros angle.<BR/><BR/><I>"Good luck with that one!"</I><BR/><BR/>Indeed. It's called, "seeing what one wishes to see", and it makes debate with the left so incredibly frustrating. But we press on.Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9149193.post-58081192328528774942008-05-27T22:56:00.000-05:002008-05-27T22:56:00.000-05:00Cole Younger – personally I love David Carradine’s...Cole Younger – personally I love David Carradine’s portrayal of him in “Long Riders”, one of my all time favorite westerns; nothing but brothers playing brothers. The Carradine brothers play the Younger brothers; the Keach brothers play the James brothers, and the Quaid brothers play the Millers.<BR/><BR/>With all that talent, David (kung fu) Carradine by far acted the best part! Especially when he spoke of the “square heads” in the Minnesota Raid, that proved to be their (as a gang) downfall.<BR/><BR/>Enough of the fluff!<BR/><BR/><I>”The article was about the left’s reaction to concerns about Muslim influence in Obama’s life. That’s the main point of the article. “</I><BR/><BR/>Good luck with that one! That seems to be another one of those “off limits” discussions! (how dare you!)blaminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12384502967340506264noreply@blogger.com